KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Jamie Carragher: Liverpool won't win the title

I can accept the "no stadium" argument if the funds alternatively had been used to build a title capable side. But we have got neither

Understand completely what Carragher is on about but you do need to look at the table at the moment. We have dropped points to sides who we would EXPECT to be in the bottom half but truth is Newcastle Burnley and Watford are all in the top half. And not only by drawing against us. Watford beat Arsenal and drew with us and Burnley beat Chelsea and drew at Spurs before we played them.

What needs to be addressed is how to get 1-0 up in games against teams we dominate (and to be truthful should beat out of sight) and just hold onto 3 points. The other thing is not to underestimate the opposition and try and understand what they are going to do and have a PLAN to beat this. Mourinho is always going to park the bus at Anfield. Not sure who they have been using this season but you know they are going to be fouling and spoiling when you see the likes of Young and Herrera playing. And they get way with it.

For all our possession we don't overwork goalkeepers as a high percentage of our shots on goal are off target. And EVERY keeper playing us is entitled to one brilliant save each game. Sometimes the rest just the takes care of itself and teams walk away from Anfield with a result of some sort.

Of course at the other end of the scale there is the game v Arsenal and despite criticism for the way they played against us in their attempt to match us on our own pitch they were ripped apart. Even then their keeper was their best player.

We have Lallana and Mane out but we have to be able to cope without players and win games and look like we can win.
Yesterday we had Sturridge (lost his way for ages now) Solanke (no offence to the lad but is he really better than Origi?) Oxtail Chambermaid (I hope buying him was part of an elaborate tax dodge) all on the bench and on recent form you wouldn't fancy any of them winning the game for us.

This is pretty much the team we are trotting out every week and it is starting to look stale.
We are probably 3 players short of a top 4 spot.

I remember talking to a forest fan at the time of the great 88 side in his opinion we had bought the league to an extent he was right relative to other clubs we were either the biggest spenders or certaintly at the top level. The same could be said of shanklys and paisleys sides perhaps to a lesser extent

Yes, partially correct. Certainly Dalglish's the 87/88 side whne we brought in Beardsley, Barnes, Houghton and Aldridge in a short space of time. But I'm not sure I'd agree about prior to that.

We bough the odd top player but we weren't the riches club in the league and we often made stars out of players who were little known when we bought them.

We also bought up and coming players off the back of selling 'star' players just past their peak, like we sold Keegan & bought Dalglish, we sold Souness, Rush etc. We also bought from what we earnt, from winning things and selling players, as a business, we didn't have sugar daddys like Man City/Chelsea have now.

As for Forrest, they did the same, they were well managed by Clough and won leagues/EC, then they used that success/money to go and break transfer records and buy the likes of Trevor Francis & Shilton.

The difference is now we are up against teams who have owners who will bank roll the team and are not restricted by the clubs revenue/business, look at yhe players Man City could bring on yesterday like Gundogan/B Silva/Toure, while leaving Aguero on the bench, they would be automatic starters at most clubs.

It looks to me that funds were available last summer as we were ready to splash a record fee for a particular CB and we have paid our record fee on a particular midfield who is available only next year. Yes we couldn't spend like the 2 Manchesters but we could match the rest, even the champions

I know it looks like that but I wouldn't be surprised if we had of got our targets then Phil would be sunning it in Barca right now and the perceived splash wouldn't be as big.

Who knows, the only thing we can go on it track record and when it comes to net spend, FSG's isn't really that impressive.

Could if maybe might but never "did"

I though we DID smash the record for a British player under FSG.

Maybe that has something why we've been a bit shy since?

how are the club sales done. can those agreements be similar to player's contracts?

500m raising upto 1 billion providing lfc win 4 out of 5 PL seasons , 3 CL titles, Runners up in mickey mouse cup etc etc ????