KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Klopp to join Bayern Munich.

On the 8th of this month he'll have been with us for exactly 2 years.

He's had 1 full season when we didn't have Europe to contend with and we just about limped to 4th spot (16/17) and a CL place. He had 30 PL matches of the season he came (15/16) when he took over from Brendan and we were in 10th place 6 points behind leaders City and 3 points behind C Palace who were in 4th spot.

Looking at it from outside, the season he came, we finished in 8th spot, 21 points behind Leicester the champs that season and we got beat in 2 cup finals.

We finished 17 points behind Chelsea last season in 4th spot with no Europe to contend with and we were out of all domestic cup comps before the end of Janaury.

7 games in this season and we're already off the pace by 7 points. We've made a dodgy start to our CL campaign with 2 draws and we've been knocked out of the League Cup in our 1st domestic cup game.

As things stand if Klopp can't rescue this season somehow, he's on very thin ice come next summer "if" somebody else is available. I'm guessing that someone will be Ancelotti because he's currently wanting a hiatus and you can bet your bottom dollar FSG WILL put their feelers out.

Don't know if Ancelotti would touch us myself...the Liverpool Job is not what it once was and is probably a poison chalice given you have to work with owners who don't understand football...put profit before success and have an unrealistic fanbase still living in the 79s and 80s with expectations to match....

I've been critical of Klopp myself too, but I'd prefer to see him getting a better chance to prove himself. We have to remember he still has a large remnant of moneyball prospects in the squad. Now I know he's had two years and four transfer windows to sort that out, but at least one of those windows came before he had a chance to evaluate what he had inherited, and for the remaining windows he had to contend with FSG and at least their incompetence if not actual resistance and determination to hold on to their cherished moneyball policies. So all things considered, I'd give him a bit more time, just how much I can't seem to make up my mind. I suppose if things goes totally tits up then less time, if however he can re-motivate this malfunctioning side and finish 4th 5th or even 6th then maybe one more season as a last chance....and I think I'm going soft in my old age! But when you look at the bunch of pussycats he has to work with and then FSG, is there anybody who could do much better? What a horrible position to find ourselves in...

Hummels is saying that Bayern have asked him about Klopp, so they may try and make an approach, will be interesting to see if FSG would allow Klopp to speak with them, or will they dig in and refuse like they did with Coutinho?

I can see Bayern trying, but I'd be surprised if Klopp left, unless FSG want rid of him, which I doubt.

I guess we will find out if Klopp is really happy with FSG and the transfer dealings over the summer.....

At least Woy is in a job now so we can't end up with him again, I have a horrible feeling Allardyce would impress FSG with his stats & folders, very moneyball'ish.....

I don't think it will be difficult to get Ranieri if we wanted or even Ancelotti or Mancini, who did you have in mind?

Money Money Money

Klopp got us top4 on the back end of a net profit transfer and since has spent just £34 Million net. Plus Klopp is a kind of brand himself, and even though he comes across like a spluttering idiot during interviews, he's good for telly.

I can't see FSG wanting to loose him any time soon as he is good for financial return.

As far as Ancelotti, or any other proven winning manager, there's no way they'd risk their reputation coming to Anfield if they had to work to the same budget restraints as Klopp.

At least we'd be able to defend!

I can definitely see Ancelotti accept to come to us.

The Liverpool job had become a bit of a poison chalice of a job with managers a lot had to do with FSG and the moneyball policy and the fanbase still thinking we are a big Club that should still be winning major trophies, this puts unbearable pressure on any would be managers..

Soccer-Retired Heynckes says close to taking over at crisis-hit Bayern.

BERLIN (Reuters) - Retired treble-winning coach Jupp Heynckes said on Friday he was close to a deal to take charge at crisis-hit Bayern Munich for a fourth time, after the Bundesliga champions last week sacked Carlo Ancelotti.

The 72-year-old Heynckes led Bayern to the domestic league and Cup double and the Champions League title in 2013 but then made way for Spaniard Pep Guardiola.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-...n-idUKKBN1CA0BT

I can ONLY see this as a very short term appointment, Heynckes being asked to guide Bayern through the rest of the season. Come next summer though, there's likely to be more choices for Bayern that are available. Klopp may be one of them because I can't see how he's going to turn our season around with such a dreadful defence. Come January, FSG may not want to back Klopp in the transfer window if our season is already in tatters. They won't want to pay for the likes of VVD then if he is available with Klopp's tenure increasingly under pressure.

As for Ancelotti, I get the impression he's done with clubs and expectations to immediately be challenging for domestic and CL titles when he takes over. He's suffered this fate in recent years at the likes of PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid and now Bayern Munich. At Liverpool the expectations aren't going to be as high from the get go and he will not be under as much pressure.
For all the passion of Klopp and how everybody thinks he's such a nice person, his teams have now been beaten in 5 consecutive Cup Finals and he's earned a Bridesmaid tag.