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If this was May 2018 then it would be a good bet that Kloppy would be off to Bayern I reckon. But it is currently too soon for him to be sacked or for him to quit.
I cant see him succeeding at Liverpool based on what he has done so far, which is really tough to admit. He has become a bit of a clown who is no longer entertaining.
My bet is 70:30 he will be gone at the end of the season. Next season Klopp will be adding to what he has already built with Keita, maybe VVD or similar and I'm guessing a few more quality additions. The LFC manager is definitely not a clown and is building a good squad sustainably and sensibly. The only clowns are those who want him gone before he's had a chance to build , we don't have the means to buy success and this is the alternative. Everyone is speaking about what Klopp want's to do, but FSG have a history of firing Liverpool managers who do not achieve what FSG expect (realistic or not - Hodgson/Kenny/Rogers). From what I have seen so far this season we are going to be hard pressed to finish Top 4, Man Utd/City/Tottenham look nailed on for Top 4, so that leaves 1 place for us, Chelsea or Arsenal, so will be difficult to get Top 4. I suspect FSG will expect Top 4, anything less is failure based on previous FSG judgements, I don't agree with this btw, just what I see happening based on FSG previous behaviour. yes I think your right...I happen to believe in sacking managers if they don't succeed myself tho...modern managers are provided with every single thing you can think of from money, tools to do the job and even bring in there favourite Cook if they want so if they fail it's nobodies fault but there own... You can only sack managers if you give the new manager a huge amount of money and you are prepared to write off money already spent, like Man City/Chelsea do, I just don't see FSG doing that, Klopp appears to have come in on a long term project, so will be interesting to see how FSG react if we don't get top 4, as last year was seen as a success by FSG as we got CL.
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Let's be honest here...we only reached top four because we never competed in and got bounced out of every Cup competition after one or two rounds and because we never had Europe to contend with, we would of finished about seventh like any normal season otherwise. That's why we won't finish in the top four this season...FSG will have a decision to make and I think they will treat him the same as the other failure Dalglish who spent money and never reached the required level FSG want...
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Whatever the reason, we got 4th, I am guessing Top 4 was top of FSG list for success, but it probably wasn't a necessity as it was Klopps first season, we punched above our wait getting 4th last year, I think FSG will expect it now.
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Let's be honest here...we only reached top four because we never competed in and got bounced out of every Cup competition after one or two rounds and because we never had Europe to contend with, we would of finished about seventh like any normal season otherwise. That's why we won't finish in the top four this season...FSG will have a decision to make and I think they will treat him the same as the other failure Dalglish who spent money and never reached the required level FSG want... We went to the semi final in the league cup last season. Everton didn't get top 4 so I'm unsure why you think they did.
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Whatever the reason, we got 4th, I am guessing Top 4 was top of FSG list for success, but it probably wasn't a necessity as it was Klopps first season, we punched above our wait getting 4th last year, I think FSG will expect it now. you think we punched above our weight with Dalglish who won our only cup in ten years and reached a final...they never respected that much when he under performed the next season...
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Whatever the reason, we got 4th, I am guessing Top 4 was top of FSG list for success, but it probably wasn't a necessity as it was Klopps first season, we punched above our wait getting 4th last year, I think FSG will expect it now. you think we punched above our weight with Dalglish who won our only cup in ten years and reached a final...they never respected that much when he under performed the next season... I disagree
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Whatever the reason, we got 4th, I am guessing Top 4 was top of FSG list for success, but it probably wasn't a necessity as it was Klopps first season, we punched above our wait getting 4th last year, I think FSG will expect it now. you think we punched above our weight with Dalglish who won our only cup in ten years and reached a final...they never respected that much when he under performed the next season... But Kenny never got us in the CL, Rogers got us In the CL, then failed to get us in the CL, so he got fired, to be fair, he lost the plot as well, it could be argued with Klopp's policy on keepers and not buying CB he is losing the plot, if he doesn't get top 4, he will be on thin ice.
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If this was May 2018 then it would be a good bet that Kloppy would be off to Bayern I reckon. But it is currently too soon for him to be sacked or for him to quit.
I cant see him succeeding at Liverpool based on what he has done so far, which is really tough to admit. He has become a bit of a clown who is no longer entertaining.
My bet is 70:30 he will be gone at the end of the season. Next season Klopp will be adding to what he has already built with Keita, maybe VVD or similar and I'm guessing a few more quality additions. The LFC manager is definitely not a clown and is building a good squad sustainably and sensibly. The only clowns are those who want him gone before he's had a chance to build , we don't have the means to buy success and this is the alternative. I feel the naby deal is not so sewn on as some think I believe he would of put in an escape clause in case we were relegated don't make the CL's etc if I was him I would of ! makes sense, 12 months is a long time in the PL ? And the way we're going we will be out of CL and not challenging for 4th unless we get our finger out ! Imo yes good point I would be surprised if there was no cause inserted so he plays champions league...
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Whatever the reason, we got 4th, I am guessing Top 4 was top of FSG list for success, but it probably wasn't a necessity as it was Klopps first season, we punched above our wait getting 4th last year, I think FSG will expect it now. you think we punched above our weight with Dalglish who won our only cup in ten years and reached a final...they never respected that much when he under performed the next season... But Kenny never got us in the CL, Rogers got us In the CL, then failed to get us in the CL, so he got fired, to be fair, he lost the plot as well, it could be argued with Klopp's policy on keepers and not buying CB he is losing the plot, if he doesn't get top 4, he will be on thin ice. BR would've been sacked after the season finished then if it was down to CL qualification, no? Not 8 games in or whatever it was
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Considering the poor run of results and Klopp's abrasive manner in interviews, if we have poor results against Manure and the Spuds then taking over at Bayern would be an easy out.
It is a 50-50 bet he would take the job if he is offered. But I cant see his "friendly, loud homeless guy" persona would fit into the Bayern culture at all.
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