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ecnirp98 #580499 29/09/17 07:10 PM
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Money talk sometimes, look at Tevez going to China?

Everton don't have Chinese money.

I think Chelsea would be a good move for him.


They don't need Chinese money, they need to pay him £250K+ a week, which they can afford to do as they have a Billionaire owner.

As I said, anything Everton offer can be matched by Top 4 clubs, so if he comes to the PL, I expect he will end up at a Top 4 club, but I suspect he will end up staying at Bayern with a fatter contract.


They have a billionaire owner who has already stated he will not bank roll them, only spend what they earn - The same as FSG, who are also billionaires.


I thought he came in saying he was going to make them a top 4 team and bring in better players? we were going to pay the likes of VvD huge money, so I'm guessing Everton will be willing to pay for a top striker, if they at linked with the likes of Costa/Lewandowska, they will need to pay that.

I'm surprised they never got Giroud, he would have been a good player for them, I would have liked us to go for him as something abit different, he also appears happy to come on as a sub and is always likely to get a goal, more chance of him getting a goal than bringing on the likes of Sturridge or Origi.
your completely right, I also think Giroud would of been a good signing and plan B for us. The thing with Everton is that with this new owner they can go toe to toe with us for players and once the new stadium is completed it will take them on to a whole new level, they have already cornered the local fanbase here in the city.
I think somebody mentioned the gap between Everton and the top six is a big one well the gap between Stoke, West Brom and Southampton is a lot closer to us than the gap between ourselves and Spurs and the likes of City, Chelsea and United....

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Everton can go toe to toe with us grin


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if the owners had any kind of vision or plans to take the club forward we wouldnt have seen all the reject signings we later on struggle to get rid of, Managers like Roy or experiments like Brenda.

We are still not done with the clear out of all what has happened during years of this experimenting. Bring any manager of the world under similar conditions and the results will be no different.

If Klopp leaves or is sacked, we are effectively back to square one.


Even with Klopp we're still buying shit3. Karius and Klavan for a start. I know these are supposed to be prospects but I'm not convinced.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the contrasting vision of FSG compared to that of the fans.


Klavan replaces Toure,not first choice, no brainer. Karius is a prospect and certainly not someone who is expected to be number 1 GK the moment he signed. I can see why Klopp is giving him chances after chances since he bought him.

Disagree all you want.if the club has an ambition,we would always be going for top class players regardless of the manager. there would be players who may not fit to certain managers philosophy but they wouldnt still be rejects. Now you tell me if its better for an incoming manager to work with proven players or start all over since all hes got is rejects. its a slow painful process for Klopp and us. easy n quick fixes dont just come by appointing a proven manager. The experiments should have stopped right after Kenny left but that didnt just happen. the club has no direction and thats where the problem lies.


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if the owners had any kind of vision or plans to take the club forward we wouldnt have seen all the reject signings we later on struggle to get rid of, Managers like Roy or experiments like Brenda.

We are still not done with the clear out of all what has happened during years of this experimenting. Bring any manager of the world under similar conditions and the results will be no different.

If Klopp leaves or is sacked, we are effectively back to square one.


Even with Klopp we're still buying shit3. Karius and Klavan for a start. I know these are supposed to be prospects but I'm not convinced.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the contrasting vision of FSG compared to that of the fans.


Klavan replaces Toure,not first choice, no brainer. Karius is a prospect and certainly not someone who is expected to be number 1 GK the moment he signed. I can see why Klopp is giving him chances after chances since he bought him.

Disagree all you want.if the club has an ambition,we would always be going for top class players regardless of the manager. there would be players who may not fit to certain managers philosophy but they wouldnt still be rejects. Now you tell me if its better for an incoming manager to work with proven players or start all over since all hes got is rejects. its a slow painful process for Klopp and us. easy n quick fixes dont just come by appointing a proven manager. The experiments should have stopped right after Kenny left but that didnt just happen. the club has no direction and thats where the problem lies.


We were apparently ready to break the record fee for a CB, we broke our record buying Ox and Keita. Ok we are not City but we do have ambition, but not the money

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everton sacking Koeman and luring Ancelotti would be a serious statement of intent.


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Everton can go toe to toe with us grin
whats Everton's record signing and what's Liverpool's again.....

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everton sacking Koeman and luring Ancelotti would be a serious statement of intent.
i wouldn't think Everton would be getting shut of Koeman anytime soon myself...I think the owner is a little bit different than ours in that he loves and understands the game, he knows that when you bring so many players in all at once they need time. To settle...Koeman will get time in my opinion...

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Everton can go toe to toe with us grin
whats Everton's record signing and what's Liverpool's again.....


What's Farhad Moshiri wealth compared to John Henrys. What's Liverpools annual turnover compared to Everton's? What's Liverpools wage bill compared to Everton?


You're confused, you think their owner is richer than ours. He is not.


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Everton can go toe to toe with us grin
whats Everton's record signing and what's Liverpool's again.....


What's Farhad Moshiri wealth compared to John Henrys. What's Liverpools annual turnover compared to Everton's? What's Liverpools wage bill compared to Everton?
Liverpoolhave a higher wage bill than Everton's but since Farhad Moshiri took over but the players coming in like Keane and Siggusson are closing that gap and I expect it to close further over the next couple of years.
We have a bigger turnover than Everton as since we became a bigger club than them in the last forty years we have been able to draw on fans across the world all due to when we won major trophies 25 years ago. I think last 10 years Liverpools worldwide fanbase has seen evidence of shrinking and at the same time Everton have cornered the local fanbase in the city where kids growing up support Everton now, this means Liverpool for now have a bigger turnover for now but once Everton move into there new 60k stadium on the docks I expect this to change..
Moneywise FSG have had more money than Bill Kenwright, but since Kenwright sold to Farhad Moshiri I think Everton have as much if not more money than us, this is shown clearly by both Clubs record signing where ours is about 35 million on Salah or Mane and Everton with Pickford and Keane for 30 million and Siggusson for touching 50 million.

I think the future deffo looks better for Everton than us in that we no longer win trophies so that keeps are customer base shrinking, it also brings Everton closer to us in terms of calibre of club in that I reckon we will be swapping league positions over the next 10 years as there's nothing much between us. I think Everton will kick on once they move into there new stadium just like Spurs will in there new stadium.
The thing which interests me most of all is not directly linked with Everton but with Arsenal...Farhad Moshiri best mate is Usimonov the Arsenal shareholder who is at loggerheads with Arsenal main shareholder Stan Kronke, they have had a big falling out regarding Wenger and the direction of the club. The rumours are that Usimonov will up sticks and move his investment out of Arsenal and will be looking for another club, if that happens the talk is he will invest with his mate. and invest in Everton and if that happens it will blow Roman Abramovic at Chelsea investment out of the water as Usimonov is in the top thirty richest men in the world...this is just my opinion mind you...not set in stone...

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Moving Everton in to a new stadium won't make up the gap in income. We make 200M more than Everton. Yes, It's a step in the right direction for them but it's not enough. They don't have a global appeal on the same level as us, and they aren't going to challenge for major honours to get that appeal.

We spent the same as Everton in the summer despite missing out on our top target, VVD - who would've beat Everton's record signing, and Keita next season will beat it too which has already been agreed.

The Arsenal owner who has not bank rolled Arsenal is suddenly going get a stake in Everton and start bank rolling them? ...very unlikely. He may well be richer than Abramovich but Abramovich was willing to put his money where is mouth is in order to get his club to the top, Usmanov isn't.




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