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We sold Sakho, which left our defence bare thin and then bought Oxdale Chamberlain for £40m, for which we could have bought a defender other than the one we were chasing for months.
We then decided to spend all summer rejecting a huge offer for a player that does not want to here, we could have used the money to buy players that want to play at Liverpool e.g. Lemar.
We bought Robertson and then decided to put him on the bench behind a player who has been [oops] for the last 16 months.
I like Klopp, but surely he must be criticised for this b.s. decisions ?
A warm reminder, Robertson was playing in our last two games. For Sakho, he had issues in training attitude and discipline, he must go. He was not playing last season anyway so losing him is nothing worsen our defence. Btw, he is not fit to play in crystal palace last game which means that even if he is still with the team, our CB partnership would still be the same. Ok, then why didn't we use the money to get a better defender? Why did Klopp introduce Robbo just now? For Robbo, I think Klopp believe players need to get some training to fit in his system. Therefore, unless there are no other choices, he normally didnt rush players to the first team. Robbo joined us a bit late in the pre-season (missed the entire hong kong trip) and that's why he didnt feature a lot in the first few games. Plus, although many didnt like Moreno, Moreno is actually playing his best games since he joined us. Moreno consistently provide support for attack and defensively, he didnt look as vulnerable as before. Alternatively, our RB looks vulnerable when Clyne sit out. A lot of goals related to the errors of the RB or simply assisted from a cross from left wing. This surprised me a lit to be frank as Arnold did pretty well in the pre-season and last season as well. Clyne unexpectedly missed more games than before also made the situation worse. I would suggest to let Arnold rest for a few games first and play Gomes instead. For another defender, I think Klopp had confident he could get in some real quality in January and that's why he decided to wait. Tbh, Lovern and Matip had some good partnership towards the end in the last season and we had a few good clean sheets. The defence was not as worse as the recent few games. Moreno is great going forward this is why Klopp likes him and our defence has been shyte for a long time, everybody knows that.
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We sold Sakho, which left our defence bare thin and then bought Oxdale Chamberlain for £40m, for which we could have bought a defender other than the one we were chasing for months.
We then decided to spend all summer rejecting a huge offer for a player that does not want to here, we could have used the money to buy players that want to play at Liverpool e.g. Lemar.
We bought Robertson and then decided to put him on the bench behind a player who has been [oops] for the last 16 months.
I like Klopp, but surely he must be criticised for this b.s. decisions ?
A warm reminder, Robertson was playing in our last two games. For Sakho, he had issues in training attitude and discipline, he must go. He was not playing last season anyway so losing him is nothing worsen our defence. Btw, he is not fit to play in crystal palace last game which means that even if he is still with the team, our CB partnership would still be the same. Ok, then why didn't we use the money to get a better defender? Why did Klopp introduce Robbo just now? For Robbo, I think Klopp believe players need to get some training to fit in his system. Therefore, unless there are no other choices, he normally didnt rush players to the first team. Robbo joined us a bit late in the pre-season (missed the entire hong kong trip) and that's why he didnt feature a lot in the first few games. Plus, although many didnt like Moreno, Moreno is actually playing his best games since he joined us. Moreno consistently provide support for attack and defensively, he didnt look as vulnerable as before. Alternatively, our RB looks vulnerable when Clyne sit out. A lot of goals related to the errors of the RB or simply assisted from a cross from left wing. This surprised me a lit to be frank as Arnold did pretty well in the pre-season and last season as well. Clyne unexpectedly missed more games than before also made the situation worse. I would suggest to let Arnold rest for a few games first and play Gomes instead. For another defender, I think Klopp had confident he could get in some real quality in January and that's why he decided to wait. Tbh, Lovern and Matip had some good partnership towards the end in the last season and we had a few good clean sheets. The defence was not as worse as the recent few games. We were playing Milner as a lb last season, that's how defensively poor Mo was. Mo had one or two good pre-season games and that is why he was selected. He is still poor defensively despite his attacking abilities. If he wanted to wait till January then it was a poor decision by him. Matip is injury prone, Klavan is shaky and Lovern is a hit or miss. Why was it so difficult to get quality in the summer.
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Saying that he is sick to see us concede from set pieces means to me that he doesn't know what to do. I would suggest he brings in somebody who has proven experience defending set pieces to help him. So your opinion is now official. I don't remember that announcement. Heard him saying this himself after the game, that's the most official you can get, don't you think? Are you saying that he said after the game he was clueless. Really?
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R Saying that he is sick to see us concede from set pieces means to me that he doesn't know what to do. I would suggest he brings in somebody who has proven experience defending set pieces to help him. So your opinion is now official. I don't remember that announcement. Heard him saying this himself after the game, that's the most official you can get, don't you think? Are you saying that he said after the game he was clueless. Really? Did you read my post? He said he was sick to see us concede such goals, meaning that he is clueless. Did King Saud say he was supporting ISIS? Don't think so, though you seem to be sure that Saudi Arabia does. It's an analogy. Got it now or should I draw a picture?
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R [quote=Shaggydog][quote=TiredReds]quote]
Heard him saying this himself after the game, that's the most official you can get, don't you think? Are you saying that he said after the game he was clueless. Really? Did you read my post? He said he was sick to see us concede such goals, meaning that he is clueless. Did King Saud say he was supporting ISIS? Don't think so, though you seem to be sure that Saudi Arabia does. It's an analogy. Got it now or should I draw a picture? Really? Someone said he is "sick to see us concede such goals" does not mean dissatisfaction or anger but means he is clueless? I learn English today. New definition in Oxford, thanks.
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No, you should stop making threads that you claim to be official when it is only your opinion.
The short answer to the question that I asked you is that Klopp didn't say he was clueless.
I hope this helps.
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If he's so sick and tired of seeing us concede, why didn't he improve our defence over the summer? The only explanation we have is that he wanted to wait till January for quality players. LMAO
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[quote=klopp4kop][quote=Liverotto][quote=klopp4kop] We were playing Milner as a lb last season, that's how defensively poor Mo was. Mo had one or two good pre-season games and that is why he was selected. He is still poor defensively despite his attacking abilities. If he wanted to wait till January then it was a poor decision by him. Matip is injury prone, Klavan is shaky and Lovern is a hit or miss. Why was it so difficult to get quality in the summer. This was our last 7 games in EPL last season. Stoke City 1 - 2 West Brom 0 - 1 Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Watford 0 - 1 Southampton 0 - 0 West Ham United 0 - 4 Middlesbrough 3 - 0 We conceded two goals in seven games. I think it is a good sign that our defence was getting better and that may be why Klopp believe he can wait til Jan for VVD.
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No, you should stop making threads that you claim to be official when it is only your opinion.
The short answer to the question that I asked you is that Klopp didn't say he was clueless.
I hope this helps. It's not my opinion but his, though he used other words. Do you know what reading between the lines is?
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No, you should stop making threads that you claim to be official when it is only your opinion.
The short answer to the question that I asked you is that Klopp didn't say he was clueless.
I hope this helps. It's not my opinion but his, though he used other words. Do you know what reading between the lines is? No, it's your opinion and nothing else. You can wriggle all you like, it will still only be your opinion.
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