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Originally Posted By AngryAsianRed
Spending resources improving the attack instead of the defence in the summer seemed really questionable to me. Salah is a good player but he really isnt an upgrade to coutinho and needs too many chances to score imo. We could have spent our efforts getting a defender who could stop 10-15 goals more than lovren since he's making a mistake almost every other game.

And if we compare this team and even the suarez team in 2013/14 to the team that finished second in 2009, I'd say despite the Benitez team having less resources to spend and some mediocre players that team was still the most balanced and complete of the three. The attack may not have been quite as good as the current team but the defence was rock solid and in Europe I always felt like we would go far. The saying goes that all successful teams are built from the defence first.


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Klopp was protecting his players, mate.

Only idiot would be completely honest without considering the consequence of his words.

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Originally Posted By Liverotto

Klopp was protecting his players, mate.

Only idiot would be completely honest without considering the consequence of his words.


Yeah, good managers protect the players and don't do it in the media, that was one of Fergys strengths, the players knew he had their back and trusted him, he would never hang them out to dry in the media, but behind the scenes you knew he was giving them a kicking when required.

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agreed. thats the reason he motivates and improves players and players willing to run through brick wall for him.

I just wish he had Gerrard , Suarez and the likes at his disposal.


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Also, some questions:

Why sign Grujic?
Why sign Chamberlain?
Why play Moreno instead of Milner or Robertson?
Why play Karius?
Why sell Sakho without replacing him?
Why play Henderson?
Why give Lovren a new contract?
And what does Wijnaldum DO!?!?! I rarely realise he's playing!?


I think picking the team is one of the managers main jobs.


What about sorting out the defence? ..... who's job is that, because "that" guy's in big trouble!

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
This is the sorta thing that will eventually cause his demise thinking the the fans are ill informed and don't see the problems for what they are he is pissing in our pockets and telling us it's raining imo
Re concentration if they can't concentrate then they are worse that is a major part of being a defender how can u say they not worse in one sentence then say they can't concentrate ? And what all of them ffs !


Persistent mistakes have cost Liverpool during Klopp's reign as the club's manager, with the aborted attempts to sign Southampton's Virgil van Dijk this summer not followed up by a move for an alternative central defender.
All of Liverpool's top six rivals in the Premier League added to their defensive options with high profile signings, but Klopp and Liverpool failed to bolster the key weak point in their armoury.





I had to make a decision and the decision was our boys are not worse than them.

"It is concentration. It is not a quality thing, but if there’s no-one, no solution out there, and no real quality issue then you have to work on it and that is what we will do."
Klopp hit back at the media for criticising his tactics and also the suggestion that Liverpool did not do enough to sign defenders in a summer when they added Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain to their attacking options.

"For me it’s really difficult always to come to your planet, visit you and say ‘yeah you’re right, there were five good options out there and we missed them because, I don’t know, we wanted to spend the money anywhere else’," added Klopp.
"To cool the people down what if the new player doesn’t hit the first ball and he makes exactly the same mistake?

“Oh yeah, sometimes they make bulls**t, and we are not happy. Sometimes I see goals I’m angry about. Of course you wish we could have done differently, but that can happen. That’s really life.
“Sometimes we make mistakes because we are offensively that strong.”


All we did was got rid of our best centre back and extended the contract of our worst centre back!

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I think this is way too early, I am shocked to see this thread pop up to be honest. Klopp has improved us significantly as a unit, we were a lost cause in Brendans last games. Just look at the Tottenham game which was Klopp's first game in charge and the games after that and see how dire we were both in attack and defense. Under klopp we have an identity, some may not agree with this identity but we have a goal and have a plan and strategy of how to win games, you can see it where under the previous managers you couldn't. It is absolutely madness how fans have little patients these days. Its a project and it will take years to perfect, I mean look at city for instance and how they needed to wait 2 seasons without a league title despite their deep pockets, they needed to chop and change their squad.

I don't agree with Klopp and what he did in the transfer market but come on, this is a silly suggestion.


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It's not that silly Snakey. He's not sorted the area that most needs sorting and he's had two years to do it nearly. Ultimately if he doesn't sort it it'll cost him his job.

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Its too early, I know we can all spot the weakness but I'm not going to question the manager 5 games into a season, there is a lot of games left, there will be more games like this for sure but you never know, we can end the season successfully despite our poor start, patients is needed here.


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