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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
All managers spout the same shitte and none are going to publicly run their club down unless they don't want a job.

The thing that p!ssed me off most is that for me HE is the main reason we haven't strengthened enough. A whole world of footballers out there yet we spend months chasing just two!?


Maybe there is not a lot of value on the market, prices have significantly gone up compared to Jan when there was no value, remember?


January isn't the time to do the bulk of your business so I can forgive and understand that. But not now.

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I support Liverpool FC........ Owners/Managers/Footballers are transient.

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As fans the best scenario for us all would be for Klopp to expose FSG for who they truly are.

Once all fans are on the same page about the Owners, the quicker their tenure expires. This rinse and repeat BS every year is detrimental to our standing in World Football.

Klopp like any other Manager wouldn't survive a spat with these Owners but it's to the point now that no matter who is our Manager they'll be shackled before they've even begun!

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Support the club. If there are better options out there I'm sure we will want changes to help the club.

A few years ago I was calling for BR to be replaced as Klopp was available and was an upgrade to BR. Same story for Gillette and Hicks as FSG felt like better owners.

I will say these are uncertain times. I'm skeptical on FSG and also have some doubts about Klopp( although I still think he's the best option to get us on the right path atm) but right now am keeping faith and hoping for the best. We will see the ambition of the owners clearer when the whole Countinho thing settles.

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Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
As fans the best scenario for us all would be for Klopp to expose FSG for who they truly are.

Once all fans are on the same page about the Owners, the quicker their tenure expires. This rinse and repeat BS every year is detrimental to our standing in World Football.

Klopp like any other Manager wouldn't survive a spat with these Owners but it's to the point now that no matter who is our Manager they'll be shackled before they've even begun!
do you think if fans rebelled and protested against the owners for running a tight ship and living within our means then potential new owners would want to buy and invest in a club with such a volatile fanbase, where every decision they make if not approved and accepted by fans they would face that sort of treatment each way they turned?


I think it's time to start replying with food posts again.


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Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Originally Posted By Redneckscouser
As fans the best scenario for us all would be for Klopp to expose FSG for who they truly are.

Once all fans are on the same page about the Owners, the quicker their tenure expires. This rinse and repeat BS every year is detrimental to our standing in World Football.

Klopp like any other Manager wouldn't survive a spat with these Owners but it's to the point now that no matter who is our Manager they'll be shackled before they've even begun!
do you think if fans rebelled and protested against the owners for running a tight ship and living within our means then potential new owners would want to buy and invest in a club with such a volatile fanbase, where every decision they make if not approved and accepted by fans they would face that sort of treatment each way they turned?


I think it's time to start replying with food posts again.
if that's aimed at me is the question a bit too difficult for you to understand ?


Coming from the person who thought thirdy was a word? I admit I have sympathy for your learning difficulties, however.


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In an attacking sense, and the way we play football. I think Klopp has been one of the best we've had taking into account the squad we've had. When we are on form we are the best team in the league to watch imo.

Also man management he's perfect, and he's improved a lot of players no end.


That's the good points. Where he needs to improve:

1. Too stubborn has too much faith in some players who have had years to prove themselves.
2. He likes a small squad, sorry but this isn't bundesliga.
3. Defensively we are all over the place.

To be honest those weaknesses could and can easily be rectified.

Why is he so against buying players? Is it him? Is it FSG is it scouts/Edwards?

The answer is probably all 3.

If he reintroduces Coutinho why not Sakho, Surely Coutinho has done much worse than Sakho did? Sakho whilst not perfect is a £30m asset doing nothing who will probably go on loan 31st August.

I like the players he targets, but not to have alternatives to these players when the club has proved over the years they are a bit [oops] at the transfer game is suicidal.

For me the structure needs changing.


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Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Just don't see how we have improved since Rodgers last few seasons myself, we do attack well but we are not as good attacking wise as the year we finished second, the team is probably worse and the defence has remained the same. I think if you took away Klopps bouncing up and down on the line and comical post match interviews the fans would be unanimous in saying we have stood still. Some people judge managers on there transfers and if that's the case Klopp will of failed miserably I think his poor defensive record of no improvement will eventually cost him his job...


I fancy spag bol tonight


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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Just don't see how we have improved since Rodgers last few seasons myself, we do attack well but we are not as good attacking wise as the year we finished second, the team is probably worse and the defence has remained the same. I think if you took away Klopps bouncing up and down on the line and comical post match interviews the fans would be unanimous in saying we have stood still. Some people judge managers on there transfers and if that's the case Klopp will of failed miserably I think his poor defensive record of no improvement will eventually cost him his job...


I fancy spag bol tonight


Do you put a little wine in with your spaghetti bolognese. I find it gives it a little bite.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
Originally Posted By SPANGO7
Just don't see how we have improved since Rodgers last few seasons myself, we do attack well but we are not as good attacking wise as the year we finished second, the team is probably worse and the defence has remained the same. I think if you took away Klopps bouncing up and down on the line and comical post match interviews the fans would be unanimous in saying we have stood still. Some people judge managers on there transfers and if that's the case Klopp will of failed miserably I think his poor defensive record of no improvement will eventually cost him his job...


I fancy spag bol tonight


Do you put a little wine in with your spaghetti bolognese. I find it gives it a little bite.


I must confess my culinary skills are below par. The missus makes everything I eat - I'm pretty spectacular at cakes


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