KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Short-Term Frustration: Long-Term Hope???

Look I ain't gonna lie , I was so happy we got Klopp their wasn't a single other thing I could get upset with in terms of LFC, and I guess as time goes on, i got a little too greedy and raised my own expectations.

As you all know I am completely out of sorts mad that we haven't gotten VvD.

But even if we miss out this window , I reckon there is some real hope for LFC moving forward , not necessarily the type of hope we as fans may want during this transfer window, but I mean , their is big hope for LFC under Klopp , and funny enough , no matter how incompetent FSG and their ridiculous suits are, I honestly think Klopp will still bring real success to LFC.

I'm not guaranteeing Klopp can win us the league , but I am saying I honestly believe we are going to have successive title challenges year after year under Klopp,

Now I know this doesn't sound too exciting , especially since challenging isn't necessarily guaranteeing the success we haven't had in 25+ years ,

But The reality is successive title challenges is a first for LFC in the premier league era ,

This itself is a big difference compared to the title challenges We had in the last 25+ years which sadly can be counted on one hand :,(

Now in terms of "now" we all know it's about kieta ,VvD and keeping Coutinho , I think even if things don't work, even though I was worried with klopps smug attitude I've now become quite comfortable now with Klopps attitude ,

Yes it's worrying on one hand , his persistence for quality over quantity really really will test our squad , but to be honest as long as kieta and VvD "dont" end up at another rival club , Klopp won't get replacements, even if it means going without until January , as crazy as it sounds it kindve makes sense ,

I mean if Southampton don't let VvD be sold this window , I think Klopp will hold his end of the bargain with Virgil , showing him he won't "settle" for another CB, I know it's crazy. theirs plenty other CB's who have quality , and theirs no guarantee We will cope without a CB back-up buy.

But what if it works ? what if this loyalty Klopp is showing to kieta and VvD pays off? What if they sign in January , or end of season, yes it means "this" year is a shambles (potentially) , but atleast we in with a chance of getting quality ahead of city/Chelsea

But if we just get some alternative CB, I mean it will definitely help the squad out, but I seriously cannot see De Vrij bringing us any closer to a league title,
I'm not saying he's a bad player, ( I haven't even see him) I'm just saying Klopps attitude is very much in the balance of glory or crash&burn, we either get our top targets that we know will allow us to truly challenge for a title , or we settle for alternatives that leave us with that familiar feeling of mediocrity ...

Overall quality makes the difference , just ask Gerrard in '05, and I think LFC will be better off taking a risk and going all out for quality ,

Maybe the frustration comes from the Idenification of quality , surely theirs other quality besides kieta and VvD, but in this market , if we expect players to chose LFC over other clubs based on the "special" club we are compared to other elite clubs, then the least we can do is show "our targets" that they are special too,

And hey , if Van Dijk ends up choosing city or Chelsea, then all bets are off, go for another quality CB, but as it stands , these are klopps choices, and he wants to see this through till the end , and I think we as fans better get used to that attitude, "atleast" this gives us a chance of being successful

We are all nervous that kieta will have many options next season , but maybe just maybe, klopps persistent and frustratingly hard-headed interest in kieta will pay off, maybe kieta will chose LFC next season , and that would feel all the more sweeter than getting him this year.

I'm not saying I'm happy we won't get VvD or kieta now. But I'm happy Klopp won't look elsewhere , it's something I believe that is reflected in Virgil's own sole-desire to join us, and that's a good thing, whether it takes 1,2 or 3 yeas to acquire klopps targets having a mentality like that "atleast" gives us a chance , a chance that if , if Klopp pulls this off we can really be a quality team, and that's something we haven't been able to for 25+ years.

So yeah, call it lowered expectations, call it coming to terms with my frustrations , call it losing energy to fight us , but I honestly think long term we truly are in safe hands and even with FSG , Klopp will have plenty success and we will think of our team (if nothing else) with a sense of pride that we only accept the best to compete for the best !!!

I don't know just a different spin on things , even if we don't sign anyone else , AS LONG AS VVD & KIETA DONT MOVE ELSEWHERE, we still have a chance and we should TAKE THAT RISK,
Even if it means a weak squad depth , I think this gesture to our targets won't go unnoticed and will pay off long term

I didn't read the whole thing and would suggest you summarise a bit. Otherwise I am sure not signing a CB will be a major mistake and it cannot be that only VVD will improve our back line. I hope Klopp is not that stubborn and sees some reason if ever we cannot get VVD

Long term hope ?

For how much longer ?

We could be out of all competitions by the time January comes around and if you think they'll want to come then and even if the club will sell in January, I think you're massively mistaken.

Klopp is being stubborn here. It's on him if we don't sign anyone and it's on him if the season turns to shitte. I'm all for him getting his top targets but there is quality out there that will be more attainable and that is needed now, not in January and not next summer.

RBL have maintained that Keita isn't for sale all summer yet we persist. I think this is solely about getting rel quality over the need for another MF player though but why persist unless you're willing to go mental on the money you offer?

I still think VvD will happen but the longer it goes the more remote the chance. We NEED a top quality CB and if we've put all our eggs in his basket then it's stupid beyond belief.

I agree with you with all but one comment , I don't think it's stupid , it's risky but not stupid.

Yes Klopp is stubborn , but If we are out of all competitions I guess we'll see how stubborn kieta and VvD are to join us, that would feel special if they still chose us,

Maybe when Klopp goes table shopping he likes to make sure he doesn't come home with a lampshade.