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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
If it's constructive then I'll debate it. Nothing wrong with being negative.

But when the same three post the same ball hang again and again and again in multiple threads then I'll moan and rightly so. We could be talking about the price of milk and you can bet one of them will turn it into an FSG OUT thread.
Multiple years without a trophy may have something to do with it .


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Originally Posted By LFCDownUnder
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I completely understand if I'm viewed as crazy to some fans , a child , part of the consequences of my behaviour, but just because I understand it doesn't mean that is a fair representation to paint me by

But this is what I don't understand am I crazy for thinking that a 40m + installments as a third offer for a top target (that has dragged on that we know Klopp wants ASAP) is acceptable ?

Maybe accepting FSG are bad is too much to take for some people, fair enough it does carry a sense of responsibility of proactiveness, do you think I enjoy being so negative!?

I've got serious stress issues and yes I'd like to calm down but it's like telling somone to calm down when something destroying something you love is happening and I think I can do my part to try and change it, funny thing most people dont know that my motives isn't actually FSGout, I just know they have the capacity to change when they are held accountable .

Take the walkout as an example, I'm sure plenty people thought being so angry over a couple £ rise was ridiculous, they said " oh it's part of football" , even FSG and Ian Ayre thought this . Yet they were able to back-peddle and realise what they were doing was wrong and LFC isn't a club to be taken advantage of, how many other things you think they get away with that we fail to pull them up on???

So they have the capacity to change let's f****kn let them know, they will keep taking until they find resistance from the fanbase, but we seem to just bend over and accept the fate of their ways

Patience maybe important for some people who for whatever reason do not what to burden the responsibility of making change , for whatever reason and that isn't to saying this is a guilt-trip, everyone has their own life's away from football and sometimes it's good to separate them because to allow a bunch of FSG scum to have such control over whether we are happy or sad is dangerous .

But please in the process DO NOT BE-LITTLE MY FRUSTRATIONS!!!!!!
these are very real frustrations of real-time happenings and to pigeon-hole me as some crazy because I'm fed-up with genuine things is ridiculous ,

I remember everyone saying to calm down about kieta transfer , look were that got us? A docile & tame fanbase just accepting FSGscum making us look like a laughing stock and now I'm expected patience again?

THEIRS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OTHER TOP CLUBS MISSING OUT ON TARGETS COMPARED TO FSG - OUR BIDS ARE LAME,SELF SABOTAGE.

If you don't agree with it fair enough, but don't get f***kn petty and say I'm childish or crazy because I'm fighting to make sure FSG are pulled up on every detail.

And for a child I've got a pretty good ITK record so we'll wait and see what patience gives us, I guess patience and waiting is what LFC fans are good at these days


Pretty much all transfers are paid by installments over the course of a contract or set period of time. It's very unusual to pay all up front (see the link I posted earlier).

You getting all bent out of shape over something that goes on everywhere is why people think you're crazy. We also offered more than 50% as an up front payment so I'm still failing to see what the problem is?

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Originally Posted By lumba
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
If it's constructive then I'll debate it. Nothing wrong with being negative.

But when the same three post the same ball hang again and again and again in multiple threads then I'll moan and rightly so. We could be talking about the price of milk and you can bet one of them will turn it into an FSG OUT thread.
Multiple years without a trophy may have something to do with it .


Something to do with people turning everything we talk about into an FSG out thread? No, that's just people with an agenda or in one case a need for attention.

We all want us to win things but we don't all ruin multiple threads.

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262 posts to the right says different!

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You have to take into consideration that it's silly season too Wilki,this place is usually dead.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Another one in a row! Well done Shirley.

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Originally Posted By lumba
You have to take into consideration that it's silly season too Wilki,this place is usually dead.


Yep. Certainly brings the morons out.

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Buzzing for the wrong reasons though.

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With most there's banter. But there's a few that are beyond that and for me are ruining the place.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Buzzing for the wrong reasons though.


Oh poor poor wilkij the threads are buzzing for the wrong reasons, if you read the thread name you'll see it's basically all within context FSGout, I know it may be hard to grasp but theirs lots of people talking about FSG, you know given they are the ones breifing the suits to get deals done, the same deals that Klopp is also waiting on. So the frustrations is the elephant in the room, what's your ideal forum? Avoiding important issues? Having a tea party and chit chatting about things less confronting? Mate were getting f***d over in real-time in the transfer window!!! If you wanna close your eyes and imagine a fantasy matrix world , your choice but It might be not comfortable to talk about FSG's failings but it's the truth, and solving them means success, bringing hope back to the fanbase

Your good at playing innocent , especially considering your comments that I'm ruining this forum,

I can take a bit of OOT banter sure, but what do you want? You'd rather i stop voicing my opinion, you rather a sit down and let FSG do their "thing"?

Oh yea! Because FSG know how to get deals done :
I find it laughable that you use my anger out of context, of course installments are part of transfers , but your just as thick as FSG if you think every transfer is to be conducted without a particular finesse based on the situation .

The reality and "context" is kieta is sign this season or never : based on the consensus he'll prove himself next season, bigger fish come in for him, LFC will struggle to acquire him especially with the challenge for top4.

Yet our final offer "starts" at leipzegs asking price AND it's 40m a near 50% installment!!! that's something you do if you ain't that keen on a player, it ain't rocket science , it is as clear as day that FSG "want to seem" like they go for targets but really haven't changed one bit, give me proof of a signing that shows FSG beat competitors and paid the price?

they are opportunist vultures , they bought LFC "on a steal" they approach signings with similar manner , salah -FFP, Robertson -relegated, solanke -free.
I'm not saying they aren't klopps targets in just saying they "luckily" aligned with FSG's transfer model , players like VvD & Kieta don't align, so they'd rather bully clubs with amatuer tactics that eventually anger the selling clubs , this isn't new info I'm sure you remember previous deals that all suddenly fell through: koniolyanka, Dempsey, texeira, salah( fc Basel),

Zielinksi I won't complain about because Napoli accepted at same price,

All the evidence is failed deals that bamboozle fans, no smoke without fire, only a person in denial wouldn't think theirs something seriously wrong with the "transfer approach" the way we offer £ , our reluctance to see the long term value in overpaying for top targets,

is it a suprised based on these suits have no footballing negotiation experience? Hence naive FSG appointing muppets to do a very important job. don't try and brush aside the lingering truth, you think I'm annoying, as long as these gizmo muppets in charge of transfers this Shyte will continue that is way more annoying than me!!! Surely , and the thing is I'm sure there plenty people hear that don't know this info and would like to hear it .

As for VvD same Shyte, we won't offer £75m and so we miss out in both and have supposedly £100+ m burning a hole for nothing,

But considering you know what's best for the forum, I'll leave it up to you, say the word and you won't hear a boo out of me until 1st August -

Just say the word mate and not another post until 1aug


It is about pushing the train, not jumping on a running train.’ That is what we need here. It’s not allowed to take the history in the backpack
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