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Not talking about Scotland either.


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shaggy your link says the march not in total I would have thought ISIS and Assad would have got the highest number by a mile. ISIS are now holed up in civilian areas (deliberately)and they are close to defeat. If you are suggesting we should pull out now then you would be putting the west in grave danger and cost millions of lives in the middle east. Most of the middle east would topple. You are pretty good at telling us what we are doing wrong pretty low on practical solutions


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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My point about the perpetrator of the attack on the mosque in Finsbury Park is he is not backed by a global terrorist organisation that has the entire world on alert if you can't see the difference between that and Islamic terrorism then there is no hope. And shaggy exactly what is your solution in Iraq and Syria (bear in mind we are only providing air support and were invited by these sovereign nations) what's it you want the international coalition to dissolve and Both these countries to fall to ISIS? And I would like to see your source of stats please


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...r-a7663881.html

A murderer is a murderer and there background is of no consequence to their victims. Whether you are acting a lone wolf or part of a dedicated terrorist organisation it doesn't mask the fact that both groups are seeking the same outcome - to murder innocent civilians.

As regards Syria and Iraq we shouldn't have been there in the first place. We created ISIS whether we want to admit it or not and before we stuck our noses in both countries had a form of stability.

Unfortunately we cannot put the genie back in the bottle and we are now faced with a terror threat unlike no other. But if you think what is going on there is not linked to what is going on in Europe and elsewhere then you need your head looked.

Here's some more grim reading Stan.

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-war-civilian-deaths-syria-577353


In what way was Syria stable when we got involved? Or by stable do you mean some nut job dictator slaughtering his people who wanted change and destroying everything stable?

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Originally Posted By lumba
Not talking about Scotland either.


I have travelled all over the world and worked overseas four times. I respect the countries laws and customs I am living in I assume I must adapt to them not me to them. And I have been to countries where it would not be the best idea to screw them around. In britain its the reverse


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Whats the reverse?


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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My point about the perpetrator of the attack on the mosque in Finsbury Park is he is not backed by a global terrorist organisation that has the entire world on alert if you can't see the difference between that and Islamic terrorism then there is no hope. And shaggy exactly what is your solution in Iraq and Syria (bear in mind we are only providing air support and were invited by these sovereign nations) what's it you want the international coalition to dissolve and Both these countries to fall to ISIS? And I would like to see your source of stats please


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...r-a7663881.html

A murderer is a murderer and there background is of no consequence to their victims. Whether you are acting a lone wolf or part of a dedicated terrorist organisation it doesn't mask the fact that both groups are seeking the same outcome - to murder innocent civilians.

As regards Syria and Iraq we shouldn't have been there in the first place. We created ISIS whether we want to admit it or not and before we stuck our noses in both countries had a form of stability.

Unfortunately we cannot put the genie back in the bottle and we are now faced with a terror threat unlike no other. But if you think what is going on there is not linked to what is going on in Europe and elsewhere then you need your head looked.

Here's some more grim reading Stan.

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-war-civilian-deaths-syria-577353


In what way was Syria stable when we got involved? Or by stable do you mean some nut job dictator slaughtering his people who wanted change and destroying everything stable?


Those wanting democratic change armed themselves initially to defend themselves and the situation descended into a sectarian civil war. The coalition then became involved as did Russia and ISIS seized a foothold then. We are now in a situation where I don't think the coalition even knows who they are fighting for and against on any given day.

As is the case in any civil war, both sides have plenty to answer for. Tell me this wilki, do you know why we went in, do you knoŵ which side we are on? Almost 500,000 people have died in that conflict and it is far from over. I am not for one second blaming the coalition for that figure but we need to have a clear goal and an even clearer exit strategy when we get involved in these conflicts.

We have to stop shooting from the hip and start thinking about the bigger picture. We need statesmen and diplomats, not war mongerers.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I have just spent the day in a British town that's like many in Lancashire and Yorkshire conpletely segregated down the middle between Islamic and the rest. To those in Ireland you have no concept of this. To be fair I walked freely and I did not feel threatened in any way. I went to the local library which I would say was 80% British and maybe 20% in Arabic or Urdu. With an open mind I started to read some of the stuff in the Muslim section. There was a magazine in English it had an article on terrorism. It said (and I can see their point) mosques are run by community volunteers and are public places anyone can go they refuted mosques are where terrorism is fostered. However they did say there was an issue with madrassas we ignore at our peril (their words). I know what a madrassa is but clearly this something the Muslim community recognise internally which makes you wonder how it still goes on. As far as muj,s point about ISIS not being recognised by the majority of Muslims I quite agree however it is supported by an unhealthy minority. And minorities can cause a huge amount of conflict.


how can u bring Madrassas in .are u still talking about UK's issues? are you sure there are madrassas in your country?


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I have just spent the day in a British town that's like many in Lancashire and Yorkshire conpletely segregated down the middle between Islamic and the rest. To those in Ireland you have no concept of this. To be fair I walked freely and I did not feel threatened in any way. I went to the local library which I would say was 80% British and maybe 20% in Arabic or Urdu. With an open mind I started to read some of the stuff in the Muslim section. There was a magazine in English it had an article on terrorism. It said (and I can see their point) mosques are run by community volunteers and are public places anyone can go they refuted mosques are where terrorism is fostered. However they did say there was an issue with madrassas we ignore at our peril (their words). I know what a madrassa is but clearly this something the Muslim community recognise internally which makes you wonder how it still goes on. As far as muj,s point about ISIS not being recognised by the majority of Muslims I quite agree however it is supported by an unhealthy minority. And minorities can cause a huge amount of conflict.
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We in Northern Ireland have no concept of division on religious or sectarian grounds? Well knock me over with a feather. Take a walk down the shankhill road with an Irish tricolour then come back and tell me that again Stan. Ya buck eejit.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My point about the perpetrator of the attack on the mosque in Finsbury Park is he is not backed by a global terrorist organisation that has the entire world on alert if you can't see the difference between that and Islamic terrorism then there is no hope.


you are hopless my friend. you are made to believe that hes not backed by any global organization.WHY you ask? because hes neither black nor a Muslim....so thick minds dont accept that a white can be terrorist too...

what you need to understand is there are ignorant ,helpless ,retards who are misled and are being exploited. and any religion has nothing to do with it. easy target muslims,,,

another target.Shia n Sunnis..easy to exploit n make countries fight over this.whereas in other places both Sunnis and Shias peacefully live together n mind their own fookin business


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Originally Posted By lumba
Not talking about Scotland either.


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