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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
We don't know anything yet about this guy except he is a 47 year old family man from Cardiff and he acted alone. Hardly the terrorist mastermind I don't think ISIS need to be worried just yet. My guess is he is a crank or had a mental breakdown or just flipped. However the left will be on overdrive now equating global Islamic terrorism as on the same scale as a bloke from Cardiff. That said it's very true the injuries are the same and the victims innocent. These are worrying times there is political instability and a danger of huge social issues. Even as something as innocent as an Elton John concert is like a militarised zone all they needed last night was a few challenger tanks and typhoon jets screaming overhead and the scene would be complete.



Stan, just answer this

why cant a muslim have a break down.muslim attacker will always be a terrorist.they will find home,his whole family involved n what not.thats what they make you buffoons believe.

On the other hand,when a white does any shooting or similar,thats always a mental breakdown.Hardly a terrorist mastermind? hahaha

the time duds like you realize that its motives and money which drives this all and not religion.the world will be a much better place.and you white boys wont have to bomb any country to achieve that.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
You cant compare radical Islam with the troubles with the IRA they make no demands other than they want all unbelievers dead.


Are you fooking sure thats what Islam is? kill all unbelievers? all of a sudden you have a phd in Muslims n Islam? FFS


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I have just spent the day in a British town that's like many in Lancashire and Yorkshire conpletely segregated down the middle between Islamic and the rest. To those in Ireland you have no concept of this. To be fair I walked freely and I did not feel threatened in any way. I went to the local library which I would say was 80% British and maybe 20% in Arabic or Urdu. With an open mind I started to read some of the stuff in the Muslim section. There was a magazine in English it had an article on terrorism. It said (and I can see their point) mosques are run by community volunteers and are public places anyone can go they refuted mosques are where terrorism is fostered. However they did say there was an issue with madrassas we ignore at our peril (their words). I know what a madrassa is but clearly this something the Muslim community recognise internally which makes you wonder how it still goes on. As far as muj,s point about ISIS not being recognised by the majority of Muslims I quite agree however it is supported by an unhealthy minority. And minorities can cause a huge amount of conflict.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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I see after the Islamic attack in Paris earlier this week we have another one tonight in Belgium. That's obviously payback for Belgium invading the Middle East.


No that's just another terrorist lunatic like that nutter who attacked those Muslims who were leaving the mosque in London the other night.

Oh and Belgium is part of the coalition who are bombing in the Middle East. In fact Belgium has decided to extends its missions in Syria and Iraq just this week.


Rubbish you can't equate the unhinged Welsh chap with a global terror outfit as you are ridiculously doing. And I am glad you have recognised it's not just Britain (nasty Britain) who is attacking or more accurately defending the Middle East it's an international coalition of more than 40 countries some of them Muslim States. So why is that I wonder and why don't they take your advice of allowing Islamic state to occupy the Middle East and Pakistan Afghanistan and ultimately Europe. I sometimes wonder why we bother let the Islamic terrorists take over the west and let's see how the lefties fare then.


This chap as you call him (murderer) hired a van and drove over 150 miles to a mosque in London. Once there he then proceeded to drive over innocent muslims leaving a mosque. That is hardly the actions of someone unhinged, it was premeditated and his plan was to commit mass murder. But as well all know Stan you are the king of double standards. Muslims are fanatical murderers hell bent on destroying western civilisation and this chap was just unhinged. Your hypocrisy is breath taking.

Also on the subject of ISIS, in March this year coalition forces killed more civilians in Syria than ISIS or Russia. That's a strange way to defend civilians. Thousands of civilians are being murdered in the middle east in our name. How many candles do we light for them, do we hold a minutes silence, do we pledge to hunt down those who murdered those innocents. We do nothing and it's shameful.

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My point about the perpetrator of the attack on the mosque in Finsbury Park is he is not backed by a global terrorist organisation that has the entire world on alert if you can't see the difference between that and Islamic terrorism then there is no hope. And shaggy exactly what is your solution in Iraq and Syria (bear in mind we are only providing air support and were invited by these sovereign nations) what's it you want the international coalition to dissolve and Both these countries to fall to ISIS? And I would like to see your source of stats please


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It's funny how it got that way with the segregation Stan,its not like the NF and the likes with the same ideology didn't give a warm welcome to anybody that didn't look like phil and grant Mitchell arriving to settle down in our green and pleasant land,beats me why they felt the need to segregate themselves.


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Originally Posted By lumba
It's funny how it got that way with the segregation Stan,its not like the NF and the likes with the same ideology didn't give a warm welcome to anybody that didn't look like phil and grant Mitchell arriving to settle down in our green and pleasant land,beats me why they felt the need to segregate themselves.


I was thinking this today. They did experience discrimination in the 70's for sure, however funny enough they were integrated then. The early settlers wanted to be part of british life. Now 50 years on we have probably the fourth generation and segregation goes worse the more politically correct we become the worse it gets. Dont forget also this is not a problem unique to britain (in fact we are better than western europe) the same pattern occurs across the globe. So I am afraid the lazy its all our fauly cos we is racist theory does not stack up [u][/u]


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You're not taking into consideration the effect on the second and third generation growing up watching their parents and grandparents having to endure and except the racism thrown at them during those times.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My point about the perpetrator of the attack on the mosque in Finsbury Park is he is not backed by a global terrorist organisation that has the entire world on alert if you can't see the difference between that and Islamic terrorism then there is no hope. And shaggy exactly what is your solution in Iraq and Syria (bear in mind we are only providing air support and were invited by these sovereign nations) what's it you want the international coalition to dissolve and Both these countries to fall to ISIS? And I would like to see your source of stats please


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...r-a7663881.html

A murderer is a murderer and there background is of no consequence to their victims. Whether you are acting a lone wolf or part of a dedicated terrorist organisation it doesn't mask the fact that both groups are seeking the same outcome - to murder innocent civilians.

As regards Syria and Iraq we shouldn't have been there in the first place. We created ISIS whether we want to admit it or not and before we stuck our noses in both countries had a form of stability.

Unfortunately we cannot put the genie back in the bottle and we are now faced with a terror threat unlike no other. But if you think what is going on there is not linked to what is going on in Europe and elsewhere then you need your head looked.

Here's some more grim reading Stan.

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-war-civilian-deaths-syria-577353

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By lumba
It's funny how it got that way with the segregation Stan,its not like the NF and the likes with the same ideology didn't give a warm welcome to anybody that didn't look like phil and grant Mitchell arriving to settle down in our green and pleasant land,beats me why they felt the need to segregate themselves.


I was thinking this today. They did experience discrimination in the 70's for sure, however funny enough they were integrated then. The early settlers wanted to be part of british life. Now 50 years on we have probably the fourth generation and segregation goes worse the more politically correct we become the worse it gets. Dont forget also this is not a problem unique to britain (in fact we are better than western europe) the same pattern occurs across the globe. So I am afraid the lazy its all our fauly cos we is racist theory does not stack up [u][/u]
I'd like to see how you'd cope moving to a country where you struggle with a different language and customs.


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