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Who says we won't buy a LB ? Windows not even open yet Wilks..chill out. If we start buying defenders at more than 50m per defender, we won't buy anybody else when the window opens as there will be no money left.
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Who says we won't buy a LB ? Windows not even open yet Wilks..chill out. If we start buying defenders at more than 50m per defender, we won't buy anybody else when the window opens as there will be no money left. Our major weakness over the last few years has been defending, I would rather we buy a few top defenders and solve that problem, if they are £20 million or £50million I don't care. If someone like VvD can help solve the defensive problem, we could have him for 10 years at his age. We have already bought 2 attackers, a promising striker who will probably be a bit part player next season and Salah who will be a first team player and will give us pace and options so we are not so reliant on Mane. If we spent another £100million and bought VvD & Mendy for that and bought no one else, I would be happy. As fans we need to stop valuing the players, its what they bring to the team, FSG & Klopp know what the club can afford, so let them buy who we need, we should be happy we are spending £50+million on defenders, for years we have bought unproven nearly players who haven't delivered, how much have we wasted on the likes of Moreno/Sakho/Klavan/llori?
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Who says we won't buy a LB ? Windows not even open yet Wilks..chill out. If we start buying defenders at more than 50m per defender, we won't buy anybody else when the window opens as there will be no money left. Our major weakness over the last few years has been defending, I would rather we buy a few top defenders and solve that problem, if they are £20 million or £50million I don't care. If someone like VvD can help solve the defensive problem, we could have him for 10 years at his age. We have already bought 2 attackers, a promising striker who will probably be a bit part player next season and Salah who will be a first team player and will give us pace and options so we are not so reliant on Mane. If we spent another £100million and bought VvD & Mendy for that and bought no one else, I would be happy. As fans we need to stop valuing the players, its what they bring to the team, FSG & Klopp know what the club can afford, so let them buy who we need, we should be happy we are spending £50+million on defenders, for years we have bought unproven nearly players who haven't delivered, how much have we wasted on the likes of Moreno/Sakho/Klavan/llori? However the fans value any player is not that relevant, I am sure the manager was given a budget and he will value players as he wishes based on the money which is available and the number of players he wants to have. IMO even Klopp thinks that VVD is not worth above 50m
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Who says we won't buy a LB ? Windows not even open yet Wilks..chill out. If we start buying defenders at more than 50m per defender, we won't buy anybody else when the window opens as there will be no money left. Our major weakness over the last few years has been defending, I would rather we buy a few top defenders and solve that problem, if they are £20 million or £50million I don't care. If someone like VvD can help solve the defensive problem, we could have him for 10 years at his age. We have already bought 2 attackers, a promising striker who will probably be a bit part player next season and Salah who will be a first team player and will give us pace and options so we are not so reliant on Mane. If we spent another £100million and bought VvD & Mendy for that and bought no one else, I would be happy. As fans we need to stop valuing the players, its what they bring to the team, FSG & Klopp know what the club can afford, so let them buy who we need, we should be happy we are spending £50+million on defenders, for years we have bought unproven nearly players who haven't delivered, how much have we wasted on the likes of Moreno/Sakho/Klavan/llori? However the fans value any player is not that relevant, I am sure the manager was given a budget and he will value players as he wishes based on the money which is available and the number of players he wants to have. IMO even Klopp thinks that VVD is not worth above 50m By Klopp's and the clubs actions (that we apologised for) it does look like we really wanted VvD and pursued him, I am sure FSG & Klopp knew VvD would be valued in the region of £50million, so I am sure Klopp think's he's worth the money or we would not have pursued him as we did and got ourselves in such a bad position we had to apologise publicly.
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However the fans value any player is not that relevant, I am sure the manager was given a budget and he will value players as he wishes based on the money which is available and the number of players he wants to have. IMO even Klopp thinks that VVD is not worth above 50m [/quote]
By Klopp's and the clubs actions (that we apologised for) it does look like we really wanted VvD and pursued him, I am sure FSG & Klopp knew VvD would be valued in the region of £50million, so I am sure Klopp think's he's worth the money or we would not have pursued him as we did and got ourselves in such a bad position we had to apologise publicly. [/quote]
We might still pursue him, but legally this time.
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No wilks I'm saying Klopp isn't stupid and would know talking to a player direct unsanctioned would result in tap up claims! Only way he would for me is if he thought it had been ok'd It's my view not saying I'm right but I would trust Klopp over fsg any day Has Klopp had this aqusation previously any way ? I don't know but I'm guessing not as he don't strike me as a manager that would do that Even if he did that, it won't be FSG telling him to talk to the player, they are not running the club but has the director of football managing that part Who was appointed by them to do there bidding buck stops with fsg Yep, Klopp was also appointed by them.
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[quote=RedsforChampions]
By Klopp's and the clubs actions (that we apologised for) it does look like we really wanted VvD and pursued him, I am sure FSG & Klopp knew VvD would be valued in the region of £50million, so I am sure Klopp think's he's worth the money or we would not have pursued him as we did and got ourselves in such a bad position we had to apologise publicly. Last I read was that Southampton wanted 75m which is 50% more than our valuation which probably includes Klopp
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[quote=RedsforChampions]
By Klopp's and the clubs actions (that we apologised for) it does look like we really wanted VvD and pursued him, I am sure FSG & Klopp knew VvD would be valued in the region of £50million, so I am sure Klopp think's he's worth the money or we would not have pursued him as we did and got ourselves in such a bad position we had to apologise publicly. Last I read was that Southampton wanted 75m which is 50% more than our valuation which probably includes Klopp I think the £75million came in response to our behaviour, I guess the message is if you want him, pay this, Southampton can set any price they want, its a negotiation. They can price him out of a move, but then it depends how the player reacts being told he cannot move if he wants to, Southampton don't even have a manager atm, so I'm guessing they won't want to sell their best players atm as it sends out all the wrong signs when trying to attract a top manager. The rumoured price going round at the start of the Transfer rumours was a bidding war around £50million between us/City/Chelsea/UTD, which seemed a huge price, I'm guessing the clubs have spoken to his agent etc who must have given a guide on VvD pay requirements and what they expect Southampton will want as a fee.
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Yep so Chelsea have basically gone in the drivers seat to sign VvD , This is the defining moment now , how much do we want him, how much does VvD want us and are we going to miss out on a top targets because of 10million ?
So disappointed at the moment I was hoping something was in place should Chelsea or City push things ahead, looks like waiting till july1st may be too late.
C'mon reds f*****king get VvD you tight arse pri**ks!!!!!
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...c'mon these guys are just going to roll over aren't they.... Unbelievable why on earth I built this up as if they were going to change is beyond me, they are as soft as their pathetic statement.
Over 10million, yep now we have a perfect excuse why we can't compete for top players , cos we can't afford it? Nah [oops] tight arse incompetent owners,
Now we can afford our new wave of rejects while we try and offload the last wave , congratulations FSG you have successfully gone around a complete circle ..again , and managed our expectations in the meantime, what a wonderfully run club. wow and we think we have an entitlement to sucess ??? Hahaha you gotta get your hands dirty and earn that status, LFC of old would be ashamed at this tame disorganised and ill-informed club,
Thank f***k Klopp is in charge and we have some hope of change otherwise I'd be hiding back in my cave with wishful thinking.
Lack of ambition or just plain stupid
Ye let's offer 88$ million for mbappe even though we have Origi, Sturridge, Coutinho, firmino, Solanke, mane and salah and Ings, but forbid we offer 60-70$ mill for a CB we actually require .
Who's to say mbappe is even worth that , some fast kid with one break through season in France, smells like a Origi-mark II
strikers score goals, defended win you championships , don't think FSG got the memo , even Klopp, surely he's kept some form of communication with VvD's agent to communicate LFC's strategy to get him from Southampton, c'mon reds prove me wrong FFS, show some f****king fight some savvy anything don't let Chelsea get him without a fight , atleast push it to 80 million, make then sweat for it so we can understand atleast you tried, c'mon something anything ... F**k why bother, we've lost out I just know it!!!!!!
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