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once u invade a country you have a UN ratified responsibility to do only whats best for the people of that poor country u just invaded . we have hardly done that now have we.. we caused all this and continue to fund it we are removing nothing

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once u invade a country you have a UN ratified responsibility to do only whats best for the people of that poor country u just invaded . we have hardly done that now have we.. we caused all this and continue to fund it we are removing nothing


Has Britain invaded Syria and Iraq I thought it was an international coalition and supported by both countries governments ? Not sure of the position of the UN are they opposing the operation to remove Isis ?

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yes u invaded iraq, which broke up and became part of isis controlled syria.

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Originally Posted By EMP
yes u invaded iraq, which broke up and became part of isis controlled syria.


Did Thailand, Belgium, Sweden and the Philippines invade Iraq as well because the Muslims seem to be having a real go at them ?


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No but I bet they are real glad u did

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Assad is still in power shaggy but yes I would the Middle East was more stable under the control of these mad dictators. Islam and democracy seem to not fit to me they seem very warlike people and fractionalised these dictators keep them under check. But the west saw it differently and went to war to remove something you opposed from what I can fathom and you believe this is why British and other western countries Muslims are killing fellow citizens on an industrial scale yet on the other hand you want to attack militarily to remove the dictators I don't understand your position.


No Stan that's your point of view not mine. The 9/11 bombers almost to a man hailed from Saudi Arabia. So what did we do, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

Saddam and Assad kept a lid on things and look at those countries now.

We give aid toYemen whilst selling arms worth billions to Saudi Arabia who bomb Yemen. What genius came up with those policies.

Also if you think what is going on in those countries isn't related to what is going on in the west then you need your head examined. Europe has been flooded with refugees from Syria and I dread to think how many of them are radicalised already. Add them to our own home grown radicals and this isn't ending any time soon. We have let the genie out of the box and we may never get it back in.

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Assad is a brutal murderer shaggy but you seem to want him removed.

Fine

So when our planes bomb him will you be calling our pilots murderers creating atrocities ?

You can't have it both ways.


Since you keep mentioning the enemy within which is the real threat then why not put all efforts to get that sorted?

How poking nose in other countries matters,bombing and killing their people makes UK , US and all other western countries safe?

why is there a loophole in internal security? why doesnt this happen to Israel or as a matter of fact to countries who dont really indulge in giving *democracy* to other countries? why not fookin care about your own country?

the billion dollar deals are there for a reason. you invade some countries to gift them democracy and then sell weapons to nearby monarchies?

democracy my arse


Poking our nose in ? presumably you want ISIS running Iraq and Syria ?


haha.so Bashar now n back then Saddam n Gaddafi were ISIS. their people needed help n stablity .begged for democracy,bombing n wat not?


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Originally Posted By Shaggydog


We have let the genie out of the box and we may never get it back in.


in a nutshell yes. agree

people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

time and again there are stats suggesting there are more deaths due to guns in US than so called terrorism. and whats the solution?

bomb xyz cause they are a threat to our national security.

In UK, you're more likely to be killed by dogs (average 18 deaths per year) than terrorism (1.4 deaths per year) Fear mongering doesn't help but sure gives u a license to bomb countries to gift them democracy n freedom.

how ill informed people are thanks to the media. never fails to amuse me


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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Assad is still in power shaggy but yes I would the Middle East was more stable under the control of these mad dictators. Islam and democracy seem to not fit to me they seem very warlike people and fractionalised these dictators keep them under check. But the west saw it differently and went to war to remove something you opposed from what I can fathom and you believe this is why British and other western countries Muslims are killing fellow citizens on an industrial scale yet on the other hand you want to attack militarily to remove the dictators I don't understand your position.


No Stan that's your point of view not mine. The 9/11 bombers almost to a man hailed from Saudi Arabia. So what did we do, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

Saddam and Assad kept a lid on things and look at those countries now.

We give aid toYemen whilst selling arms worth billions to Saudi Arabia who bomb Yemen. What genius came up with those policies.

Also if you think what is going on in those countries isn't related to what is going on in the west then you need your head examined. Europe has been flooded with refugees from Syria and I dread to think how many of them are radicalised already. Add them to our own home grown radicals and this isn't ending any time soon. We have let the genie out of the box and we may never get it back in.


Yes they were Saudi citizens not the Saudi government and plenty of British citizens have committed terror attacks but you can't class that as our government. Again I ask you what has Thailand India Philippines Belgium Sweden done to the Middle East ? Sweet FA this is a world wide class of cultures and yes who knows where it will end ?


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Assad is still in power shaggy but yes I would the Middle East was more stable under the control of these mad dictators. Islam and democracy seem to not fit to me they seem very warlike people and fractionalised these dictators keep them under check. But the west saw it differently and went to war to remove something you opposed from what I can fathom and you believe this is why British and other western countries Muslims are killing fellow citizens on an industrial scale yet on the other hand you want to attack militarily to remove the dictators I don't understand your position.


No Stan that's your point of view not mine. The 9/11 bombers almost to a man hailed from Saudi Arabia. So what did we do, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

Saddam and Assad kept a lid on things and look at those countries now.

We give aid toYemen whilst selling arms worth billions to Saudi Arabia who bomb Yemen. What genius came up with those policies.

Also if you think what is going on in those countries isn't related to what is going on in the west then you need your head examined. Europe has been flooded with refugees from Syria and I dread to think how many of them are radicalised already. Add them to our own home grown radicals and this isn't ending any time soon. We have let the genie out of the box and we may never get it back in.


Yes they were Saudi citizens not the Saudi government and plenty of British citizens have committed terror attacks but you can't class that as our government.


if it was really al qaeda then its a widely known fact that saudi gov supported n funded al qaeda. go figure


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