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At no point in the operation in Syria did we go to remove assad that has never been the intention. It's to remove Islamic state a job that's necessary for the survival of civilisation. I agree there are many factions in Syria that's why I believe (reluctantly) in the Middle East saddam, gadafi, Assad and the like are the least worst option as secular leaders it breaks my heart to say but that's the hard facts. To go blundering into Syria fighting Assad and Russia would be insane and thankfully no one is contemplating it.

I thought these terrorists were motivated by what the west i.e. us, are doing to their Muslim brothers? Is that not now the case?

As far as I'm aware, we got involved after ISIS got a foot hold and have only targeted ISIS. Our bombs may have killed innocents which is unfortunate to say the least but we're not directly targeting innocents as these scum bags are so to put what we're trying to do in the same bracket is plain wrong.

We were also asked to help out in these countries along with Libya. Should we have ignored their pleas?

Ask yourself this, were we under constant attack before we invaded these countries.

Also if you lost a son, daughter, brother, sister, mother of father would your grief be any less because the person that killed them was trying to kill a combatant at the time. There is no sliding scale here, any innocent death is a tragedy.

Britain, for far too long has danced to America's tune when it comes to foreign intervention. Apparently Brexit will allow Britain to regain control of her own affairs, I hope this applies to foreign policy also.

It was rebels, many of whom are linked to ISIS, who asked for military aid in Libya. In Syria, we are bombing both sides and we went into Iraq to look for weapons of mass destruction. Our interventions have led to the rise of ISIS and all these countries are now training fields and recruiting centres for ISIS.

Is UK bombing anybody in Syria? I thought the parliament didn't give the green light.

Britain has been dropping bombs in Syria since 2015. I think the motion was initially defeated but then passed the second time.

Can we just clear up the fact that we've not 'invaded' these countries. we're helping people out and not occupying them are we?

Well of course the grief wouldn't be any less but I'm not sure it'd make me want to go and run a bunch of random's down and then get out and stab them. Or, for that matter, blow up a bunch of people in a concert hall filled with lots of children. You can question our motives but believe it or not, we're trying to help innocent people that are getting slaughtered from all angles.

The trouble is, we can't win. We stick our noses in and the lefties whine and if we don't the same lefties whine! If it were up to me, I wouldn't stick our noses in anywhere unless there was a direct threat to us. We have enough problems to sort out on our own shores and what goes on in another country is not really my business but no doubt I'll be called a heartless b'stard for turning my back on people who are being butchered for wanting a better life.

Also, if this was all down to the west and it's interventions in the middle east, why are African countries suffering, Middle Eastern countries and now even Iran today? This is more about an ideology from a bunch of idiots who've read something in a certain way. Anyone who doesn't support their way of life is ripe for extermination in their minds.

Not all people with a conscience are lefties Mr Wilks.

Wilki have you seen the state of these countries, I doubt very much that any of them are thanking us for our help.

We may indeed have been trying to help but we have only succeeded in making the situation much worse.

I would agree that in many ways we can't win, but surely someone in the intelligence world would brief those in government of the possible outcomes where we to intervene.

Again I would agree that there are a group of these lunatics who seek world domination. I hope that they are enough moderate muslims to prevent that ever happening.

In the meanwhile we should meet these lunatics with lethal force wherever they appear to murder innocent civilians.

TBH if there are moderate Muslims who can and want to help stop killings in Europe for instance surely no one really believes the extreme muslims who do the killings and/or condone them are going to to listen to the moderates? those extremists don't even see moderate Muslims as real muslims,in fact they hate them as much as the other non muslims whoever they are,thats what everyone is really up against.

Assad had destroyed Syria long before we went over! I'm sure they'd be thanking us for not helping too eh?

Like I said, we can't win either way so we should just keep out and look after our own. Don't get involved until it arrives on our shores at which point it may be too late.