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Re: More Muslim killings
Shaggydog #567542 22/06/17 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Lycra is the work of the devil.

Furthermore all those middle aged men are using cycling as a cover for their weekly Lycra fetish group meetings.

More aerodynamic me hole.


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Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567550 22/06/17 10:39 PM
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Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567567 23/06/17 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Watching the BBC news tonight (western propaganda?) what it showed was not Muslims fighting against the west as many on here would have you believe. What it showed was Muslims fighting alongside western air support and probably alongside western special forces. It also showed displaced civilians showing anger towards ISIS which apparently in Mosul consist of a few hundred men now fighting to the death hand to hand street by street in a manner similar to Stalingrad in WW2. Probably in weeks Iraq will now be rid of ISIS and their brutality. So for us to leave now as some are suggesting seems to me the height of madness. Will this defeat Islamic terrorism in the world ? No but it's a step towards it I personally believe we need a serious discussion among world leaders (including the Muslim States) because as is clear to all this war is not just in foreign lands but on our doorstep as well. All my life in the UK I have lived near to towns with big Muslim populations and the total segregation is striking the only thing the two elements have in common is they breathe the same air. This cannot be healthy one thing I blame is the past policies of British governments on mult culturism which celebrates differences as opposed to Americas mult racial model which focuses on things communities have in common. In America a Muslim is likely to have an American flag on his front lawn in the UK a Muslim wearing an England shirt could face hostility from their communities. This is not right or healthy for our society. We need to have one nation one set of values where anyone is welcomed whatever their background this compartmentalisation has to be challenged


A significant proportion of Muslims have segregated themselves wherever they are because their way of life according to their religion is too different to the West such as women covering their head, no alcohol drinking etc, in fact, the more religious they are the less they end up mixing and demand sharia law in their communities. I think sectarian schools should be banned because it is children, but will be difficult to implement.
Re: More Muslim killings
EnergisedReds #567577 23/06/17 09:16 AM
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There's a Muslim family in our cluster of neighbours we (as neighbours) occasionally have barbecue get togethers in the community spirit. The family are totally integrated with the community in every way the man of the family even has a beer at these barbecues. If that was the norm there would be no trouble and how much better the world would be if it was. But Unfortunetly it's not the norm we have these completely segregated communities in literally every town with a large Muslim population, as Vish says with their own laws and customs. I am convinced this is a significant part of the problem if you don't perceive yourself part of a nation and community then the natural human reaction is to see the rest as an enemy. What the answer is I don't know but we have to find one this is not a unique British issue exactly the same pattern can be seen across the globe

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Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567623 23/06/17 05:40 PM
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Uk is not the only western country with big Muslim Population.

Segregation is not a very significant reason I think.they chose to live life in the way they seem fit,
they are not natives which means they chose to relocate to west fairly realizing what they are going into,a majority with different beliefs.
so hating others or wanting to enforce Islam doesnt make sense to me.if they dont want to drink or the ladies choose to cover heads,why is that a problem?

Do you really think beers,bbqs and what not doesnt happen in muslim countries or where theres large muslim population?

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Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567624 23/06/17 05:49 PM
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I dont understand how are they not part of the community.

they study,they work,do businesses.MPs and Londons Mayor.what else make them part of the nation?just that they dont want to socialize like you?
You are trying to make it look so terrible.

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Re: More Muslim killings
Muj #567627 23/06/17 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Muj
I dont understand how are they not part of the community.

they study,they work,do businesses.MPs and Londons Mayor.what else make them part of the nation?just that they dont want to socialize like you?
You are trying to make it look so terrible.


I don't think he is talking about the London mayor who I think is well integrated, but all are not like him, especially those wanting sharia law. My country Mauritius is a multi racial society built through our history where we all came from somewhere (no natives) i.e. France, UK, East African counties, India and China, we all study and work together, meet outside work despite keeping it a bit separate when it comes to family and wedding though the younger generation is more open.

That said, some Mauritian Muslims want to have some laws voted specific for them, called Muslim personal law, which is not acceptable in a republic, but they keep demanding it. I can't understand how Muslims (not all probably) can ask sharia law in countries where they are a minority.
Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567630 23/06/17 07:29 PM
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I think its fair to say that in some towns some,not all Muslims are preferring to keep themselves seperate from the rest of society in that the non british speaking their own language,preferring their own laws and not wanting to mix and embrace British culture and i dont mean drinking or partying just normal activities,Even some British born too.
This seems to be causing unrest amongst some natives but its ignored by the government which in turn causes more unrest.
People i believe are uncomfortable with certain people (whoever they may be and not all) having special laws etc when everyone else has to conform. This matters because it worries people wether others like it or not,people feel that too much of the british culture is being erased slowly but surely and the instinct is to preserve it.
too many people are expressing worry to ignore it now its important to discuss it but most are slapped down being called racist or intolerant,in the end if no one listens all hell could and may break loose but i really hope its sorted before that happens. Just my thoughts and what im hearing on the grape vine.

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Re: More Muslim killings
Stanley Park #567631 23/06/17 07:45 PM
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That's a good take on it lain. It's a tough one to get them integrated and maybe our two cultures are just too far apart for it to happen.
Re: More Muslim killings
wilkij1975 #567632 23/06/17 08:09 PM
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I fear your right Wilki and if we take Liverpool for instance,(always some exceptions i suppose) but its people are mostly tolerant of other cultures coming in and most embracing their differences but im hearing of unrest in certain towns because there seems to be no common ground between the two cultures we speak of and worse is British culture black,white or other isnt of interest to some to the muslim people.
The politicians ignore it because as long as the votes are coming in they dont want to hear the worrying answers to the questions being asked sadly.

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