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What is this obsession with having Rafa back I'll never understand. I adore Rafa, but he's not won a league In ages, last time was in 2003/4, and he's been around for a very long time. Other than an unsuccessful title challenge, he was unable to win anything after our FA cup win In 2006, which eventually led to us slipping out of the top four and regressing as a team. I want us to move forwards not backwards. Sure we are having a shitty season, but Klop deserves at least 3 seasons, hopefully he can learn from his mistakes and build a far greater team than the [oops] we have now. Rafa is past it, this is why he is in the Championship with Newcastle, even inexperienced Zidane did better than him at Real Madrid.
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I feel Klopp should get one more season - this time with full backing in the transfer market. Sign the players we need whatever the cost, and if things don't improve next season then I think it's time for him to go.
The one thing about Rafa though is that he is really good at adapting his tactics depending on opposition and sorting out defences - things that we could really do with right now.
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What an absolute embarrassment the club would become if we sacked Klopp in the summer. Yes, Liverpool should aspire to greater things blaa blaa but we're 4th, ahead of the great Mourinho who buys £90m players and Arsenal who've been top 4 since we crawled out of the ocean.
He needs to be questioned, especially with the subs yesterday but he's got the 6th best squad so we're punching above our weight. He needs to spend in the summer. If he doesn't, and doesn't claim his funds are limited, we'd have a good idea he's a 'stingy wenger'. Then again, how long would a manager who likes to splash the cash last with our owners?
As for Rafa. Won the championship in their first season and spent -£30m last summer. Deserves a little credit..
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If Klopp were to go then you have to ask who on earth could we get that would be an improvement?
As much as I love Rafa he wouldn't be an improvement, the Premiership is so much stronger now than it was when he was in charge, you could make a case for 6 teams challenging for the league title. When Rafa was in charge it was 4 at a push.
Rodgers got over 3 seasons so why shouldn't Klopp be given at least the same? Personally I feel a manager should get 3 years unless it is painfully clear that they aren't working, like Roy Hodgson.
I'm very much behind Klopp, despite my frustrations with him yesterday. Hopefully we can finish in the top 4 and build again for next season. A pivotal Summer transfer window is ahead.
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Rodgers and Rafa had better teams. Spent more. And had more than a season and a half.
Klopp deserves time. But if he fails to either buy someone to improve the team, or fails to improve the team defensively then there's no point in having him here.
Successful teams have a decent defence. I've said it before but we are a team of midfielders. cant defend well. Can't attack unless on the counter. But we keep the ball well.
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If Klopp were to go then you have to ask who on earth could we get that would be an improvement?
As much as I love Rafa he wouldn't be an improvement, the Premiership is so much stronger now than it was when he was in charge, you could make a case for 6 teams challenging for the league title. When Rafa was in charge it was 4 at a push.
Rodgers got over 3 seasons so why shouldn't Klopp be given at least the same? Personally I feel a manager should get 3 years unless it is painfully clear that they aren't working, like Roy Hodgson.
I'm very much behind Klopp, despite my frustrations with him yesterday. Hopefully we can finish in the top 4 and build again for next season. A pivotal Summer transfer window is ahead. Agree, he should be given time to learn on his mistakes of having a too thin squad.
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Yes, and without a good goalkeeping coach, a good defence and a good strike force up top...
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Comparing the three is a waste of time. Rafa has an eye for talented players and is a brilliant but one dimensional tactician, and he is a poor man manager and his demanding dictatorial manner makes many enemies.
Rogers is still learning how to be a manager and built his career on bullsheet. His works were often sweet, but his eyes always gave him a away as a clueless spin-doctor.
Klopp is a great man manager and motivator and he has shown with Dortmund that he has good tactical expertise and can spot a good player on the market. But he seems to be struggling to come to grips with the relentless procession of "no easy games" in the EPL and he appears to have blindly overestimated the quality of his squad and he has yet to demonstrate any flexibility in tactics or substitution that can change a game.
I am hoping that Klopp stops hugging players with no guts and little talent and boots their arshes out the door, and we see 6 - 8 new faces in the starting line-up come August.
Unlikley I fear.
If Klopp doesnt succeed at Liverpool then no one can, in my opinion.
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If Klopp doesnt succeed at Liverpool then no one can, in my opinion. I think you could well be right, if he did leave, we aren't exactly in the position to recruit a top class replacement like Simeone or Allegri for example. We'd probably end up with Eddie Howe as a gamble, similar to when Rodgers was appointed. I'm still hopeful he can deliver for us.
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Ridiculous thread considering this has happened time and time again under FSG,you lot really want another 'rebuilding' project with these owners ? Like driving in Milton Keynes.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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