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Clyne and AA isn't strong enough for cl and league


So how many right backs should we have and how do we propose we keep them all happy?

Clyne for me is an excellent right back, probably just behind Kyle Walker in terms of being the best in the league. Alexander-Arnold looks a real prospect to me, we also have Joe Gomez who can play there as well.

Right back isn't an issue at all, left back is!

Add into the mix Jon Flanagan as well, if he can ever get back to the form he showed in 2013-14.


So chris am I reading you think AA is capable to hold that position if Clyne picks up a serious knock let's say 4 weeks out cl and pl ? Really ! sorry but I don't! it's your opinion and that's fine , but to me it's not a decent stand in for that kind of situation in imo


You have to consider a few things and I am thinking what Klopp would be thinking,

AA is OK but not there yet
Clyne does not get injured that often
If Clyne gets injured or out a few games AA will step in
AA will eventually replace clyne or become a good backup

Klopp does not see it as a priority as he probably would like to spend the money we have elsewhere. I presume he is thinking that he thinks AA will step up next season and what is the point in buying a backup for Clyne when he thinks this guy will be good enough.

It's a risk if Clyne is out long term as I don't think AA is good enough at the moment. But maybe Klopp is thinking why would I waste money when I think this guy will be good enough after another season?



Klopp made a big comment in the summer saying he wasn't going to bring players in as cover who will not play, as he did not want to block the progression of the young players like AA, that's one of the reasons he had the big clear out, so I doubt he will bring anyone in, he will also see the likes of Can (he's played RB for Germany) as cover for Clyne if required, so it is not like we have Clyne, AA then nothing else.


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Originally Posted By sixtiesred

So chris am I reading you think AA is capable to hold that position if Clyne picks up a serious knock let's say 4 weeks out cl and pl ? Really ! sorry but I don't! it's your opinion and that's fine , but to me it's not a decent stand in for that kind of situation in imo


Yes I do, he came in away at Man Utd and didn't look out of place at all. So there is more evidence to suggest he can hold down the position to suggest he can't.

How do you expect us to bring through our own youth players if you want to block the progression of our most promising players?

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No doubt he is a very talented youngster, but I think we have to look at this with Klopp's vision in mind. No squad players is one side of it, capable of playing a Champions League group game? big question marks. As I said in the post, I think it is likelier we'll sign a full-back, but even someone of the ilk of Gaspar is not experienced. Flanagan, however, may surprise us all and stay and if we had Flanagan and Robertson as covering full-backs, I wouldn't say we'd be too worried going into the season. Let's not forget, Can and Milner are both more than capable of filling the position, and so would Gomez, and I doubt any big money is going to be spent in either position at the back. £8m for Robertson would be a steal, given what he has proven of himself at Hull.

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I would also say, that the people believing our defensive resilience is costing us are probably still going to feel disappointed come mid-August. While we will have signed, at the very least, a left back and a centre-half, it won't be the Hector/Rodriguez left back because Milner is a player Klopp wants to keep in that position, and I expect our purchases to be very top heavy.

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I rate walker,bellerin,valencia as all better than clyne. Clyne is very dependable but he doesn't have the pace or delivery to be offensively useful which top full backs often are.

But that said he is still decent and our priority in defence has to be a left back and centre back. Klavan isnt good enough imo and lovren still has a stinker every other game.

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Originally Posted By AngryAsianRed
I rate walker,bellerin,valencia as all better than clyne. Clyne is very dependable but he doesn't have the pace or delivery to be offensively useful which top full backs often are.

But that said he is still decent and our priority in defence has to be a left back and centre back. Klavan isnt good enough imo and lovren still has a stinker every other game.


Obviously you haven't seen much of Bellerin this season? Is this the same Bellerin that match going Arsenal fans have been absolutely slating for being useless.

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I havent seen arsenal much this season and that may be true but my point is I'd rather have someone who has proven to be able to hit the highs like 9s and 10s performances(even if they do have a bad game here and there).

Clyne is generally the consistently 6.5 guy. Not bad and not an urgent need to upgrade but if I had unlimited resources I most definitely do not see him as irreplaceable.

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Originally Posted By AngryAsianRed
I havent seen arsenal much this season and that may be true but my point is I'd rather have someone who has proven to be able to hit the highs like 9s and 10s performances(even if they do have a bad game here and there).

Clyne is generally the consistently 6.5 guy. Not bad and not an urgent need to upgrade but if I had unlimited resources I most definitely do not see him as irreplaceable.


Bellerin hasn't had the odd bad game, he's had a really bad season! So much so that he's been dropped.

Defenders need to be at a consistently decent level, Clyne is probably our only reliable defender.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
Clyne and AA isn't strong enough for cl and league


So how many right backs should we have and how do we propose we keep them all happy?

Clyne for me is an excellent right back, probably just behind Kyle Walker in terms of being the best in the league. Alexander-Arnold looks a real prospect to me, we also have Joe Gomez who can play there as well.

Right back isn't an issue at all, left back is!

Add into the mix Jon Flanagan as well, if he can ever get back to the form he showed in 2013-14.


Clyne is a good defender - but you rarely see him beat his man these days.


He needs to work on his passing/crossing, so many times he gets the ball in the clear and the move ends as he is so wasteful, very frustrating.

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It'll be interesting to see how strong the squad is in August. Lets hope we do make the CL, because it'll be harder to get to where we want to be if we don't. Like all fans, I really want to sit in midweek and enjoy the team playing some of the best teams in world football.

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