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It's not the captains job to take penalties especially when he's not the best penalty taker. That would just be plain stupid. Part of leading is recognising what you are good at and the strengths of your team and using that team properly. Just taking penalties because your captain when there's better out there is a ridiculous notion. It's also the managers job, not the captains, to decide who takes a penalty. You listed our 4 takers and apart from Lucas, I'd have everyone of them on penalty duty ahead of Hendo. Milner may have been the 5th taker but the order will have been down to Klopp not Hendo. We also had Sturridge on the pitch at the end of the final who I'd put above Hendo on penalty duties. But as I said, that's Klopp's call, not Hendo's. I'm certain a Captain should be involved in the talks about the penalty takers with the Manager...if not what the F*CK is he Captain for? If Henderson can't put himself forward in front of LEIVA... even Can, then it shows he's no LEADER and doesn't have the bottle for it! If I remember correctly Carragher was scathing about the penalty takers and Henderson for not putting himself forward! [/quote] But you're assuming he didn't put himself forward. And it is the managers job to decide who takes penalties. Should Hendo be picking the team and sorting the subs too? I'm sure he was geeing players up but that's as far as it will go.
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No matter which way you try and dress it up...Henderson has not shown the Leadership qualities needed to be Captain of Liverpool FC!
Lallana's interview gave us an insight and last years League Cup Final Penalty shootout only underlines it!
try as you may wilkij... Try as I may what?? You're making a ridiculous statement that he's not a very good captain as he doesn't take penalties?? And you said that I talk shitte? He's no where near the captain Gerrard was and if we can get another player more capable then so be it. But he's not half as bad as people make out (yes, managed expectations blah, blah) and from what I can tell, he's a respected member of the squad that always gives his all.
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No matter which way you try and dress it up...Henderson has not shown the Leadership qualities needed to be Captain of Liverpool FC!
Lallana's interview gave us an insight and last years League Cup Final Penalty shootout only underlines it!
try as you may wilkij... All your argument tells anyone is that you don't rate our captain. You haven't actually provided any factual evidence, only your opinion. Roy Keane didn't take penalties, did that make him a bad captain? Henderson was being proactive when he called a team meeting, but apparently that is a bad thing in your opinion. You obviously don't like him and that seems to be affecting your ability to make a rational judgement of his role as captain.
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No matter which way you try and dress it up...Henderson has not shown the Leadership qualities needed to be Captain of Liverpool FC!
Lallana's interview gave us an insight and last years League Cup Final Penalty shootout only underlines it!
try as you may wilkij... All your argument tells anyone is that you don't rate our captain. You haven't actually provided any factual evidence, only your opinion.Roy Keane didn't take penalties, did that make him a bad captain? Henderson was being proactive when he called a team meeting, but apparently that is a bad thing in your opinion. You obviously don't like him and that seems to be affecting your ability to make a rational judgement of his role as captain. He does not like him which is not a problem. But he just posts nonsense to back up his case. My eyes hurt reading this [oops]
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All your argument tells anyone is that you don't rate our captain.
You haven't actually provided any factual evidence, only your opinion.
Roy Keane didn't take penalties, did that make him a bad captain?
Henderson was being proactive when he called a team meeting, but apparently that is a bad thing in your opinion.
You obviously don't like him and that seems to be affecting your ability to make a rational judgement of his role as captain.
Bang on the money Shaggy, as usual.
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The girls are out in force right behind sista Wilkji...
LOL... it's a joke on here at times...getting henpecked by the pack! because I dare be honest and have a different opinion!
Milner is our No1 penalty taker!
The League Cup Final penalty shootout is the moment the LEADER of the team should be stepping forward BEFORE Can & before Leiva because he is deemed the LEADER...The likes of Milner, Coutinho & Sicknote should have took the first 3 kicks...although Sicknote was suffering from cramp! Henderson if he was any sort of LEADER should have gone within the first 3 designated Takers!
Then we have Lallana basically telling us that after 5 defeats, 4 draws and 1 FA Cup replay win - 1 nil, @ 3 rd tier team Plymouth,
Going out of both Cup comps and slipping down from a commanding position in the league with near certain CL qualification and a potential title tilt... Henderson called a meeting of all the senior players! Not exactly an ongoing dynamic Leader is he?
What has he actually done in his time as Captain that warrants him to be the Captain?
Answers on a postage stamp, although I'm certain you won't fill it!
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You do make me laugh. You post a bunch of shitte and expect not to be picked up on it?
Why would the LEADER put himself forward when there are better penalty takers in the team? Apart from Lucas, all those who took penalties that day are better at it then Hendo. Simple as that and really not hard to grasp.
What if he had gone up first and missed when there were better takers on the pitch? Would you applaud his bottle or slate him for being crap and a look at me captain? I think I know which one it would be.
No one is saying he's the best captain we could ever and have ever had. He's no where near as bad as you make out (certainly not based on your idiotic premise that as captain he should take penalties) but Gerrard was one hell of an act to follow and the first captain after him was always going to look worse than he is, a bit like the first manager after Bacon Face at the scum.
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The girls are out in force right behind sista Wilkji...
LOL... it's a joke on here at times...getting henpecked by the pack! because I dare be honest and have a different opinion!
Grow up pal, it's more like people becoming fed up and bored of your constant criticism of Jordan Henderson no matter what he does. The only person here with an agenda is yourself and that is against the club captain. By all means have a different opinion, but you aren't backing it up with facts or inside knowledge, just your own negative views of Hendo.
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You do make me laugh. You post a bunch of shitte and expect not to be picked up on it?
Why would the LEADER put himself forward when there are better penalty takers in the team? Apart from Lucas, all those who took penalties that day are better at it then Hendo. Simple as that and really not hard to grasp.
What if he had gone up first and missed when there were better takers on the pitch? Would you applaud his bottle or slate him for being crap and a look at me captain? I think I know which one it would be.
No one is saying he's the best captain we could ever and have ever had. He's no where near as bad as you make out (certainly not based on your idiotic premise that as captain he should take penalties) but Gerrard was one hell of an act to follow and the first captain after him was always going to look worse than he is, a bit like the first manager after Bacon Face at the scum. awwwwwwwwww poor diddums! I'm not the only one who thinks you post shhhite...when i posted that the other week...in another thread about half an hour later on one of your usual antagonizing escapades...Vish posted that you post shhhite! FAMILIAR routine for you is playing the innocent victim, then you biatches post for you, the false moral outrage! LOL carry on... I love having a good laugh!
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The girls are out in force right behind sista Wilkji...
LOL... it's a joke on here at times...getting henpecked by the pack! because I dare be honest and have a different opinion!
Milner is our No1 penalty taker!
The League Cup Final penalty shootout is the moment the LEADER of the team should be stepping forward BEFORE Can & before Leiva because he is deemed the LEADER...The likes of Milner, Coutinho & Sicknote should have took the first 3 kicks...although Sicknote was suffering from cramp! Henderson if he was any sort of LEADER should have gone within the first 3 designated Takers!
Then we have Lallana basically telling us that after 5 defeats, 4 draws and 1 FA Cup replay win - 1 nil, @ 3 rd tier team Plymouth,
Going out of both Cup comps and slipping down from a commanding position in the league with near certain CL qualification and a potential title tilt... Henderson called a meeting of all the senior players! Not exactly an ongoing dynamic Leader is he?
What has he actually done in his time as Captain that warrants him to be the Captain?
Answers on a postage stamp, although I'm certain you won't fill it!
The jist of your argument is as follows. Henderson calls a team meeting: We beat Spurs: Henderson is a sh1te captain. Henderson doesn't take the penalties: He is a sh1te captain. Fellow posters question the validity of your post: They are pecking at you. That's a very mature argument you are putting up there 
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