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What kind of players would we have if we offered them £ 20 per played game then?

Only players used were paid, and substitutes only paid for the fraction of the game played.

That would be financially perfect for the club, wouldn't it?

All the TV money has inflated player wages. If we don't pay them someone else will.

Sadly this is where we have landed. Deal with it or don't.

And don't tell me moaning about it will help solve any problems, because it won't!

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The fact is we're all guilty of creating this monster by feeding it!

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The point I am making is a simple one, don't use the excuse they are only human and can't play well all the time...they aren't because they are payed super human wages so they have to be judged on superhuman standards which means for that sort of money you have to play well all the time. If players don't like that, don't think it's fair to expect them to play well all the time or think they are being judged too harshly then fine....just don't put your name on a contract giving you an obscene amount of money or a weeks money it takes an average man about 5 years too earn...simple....

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Originally Posted By WiseOne
The point I am making is a simple one, don't use the excuse they are only human and can't play well all the time...they aren't because they are payed super human wages so they have to be judged on superhuman standards which means for that sort of money you have to play well all the time. If players don't like that, don't think it's fair to expect them to play well all the time or think they are being judged too harshly then fine....just don't put your name on a contract giving you an obscene amount of money or a weeks money it takes an average man about 5 years too earn...simple....


In their contract it is written NOWHERE that that have to play all games, so as usual you are talking crap. Even super humans (I am not sure what that is) get injured or out of form or tired. Use your brain a bit not your bitterness

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Very true. I also believe that the incentive for many players and their agent is to do enough to win that big contract then you have "made it" and onfield performance doesn't matter much at all.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By WiseOne
The point I am making is a simple one, don't use the excuse they are only human and can't play well all the time...they aren't because they are payed super human wages so they have to be judged on superhuman standards which means for that sort of money you have to play well all the time. If players don't like that, don't think it's fair to expect them to play well all the time or think they are being judged too harshly then fine....just don't put your name on a contract giving you an obscene amount of money or a weeks money it takes an average man about 5 years too earn...simple....


In their contract it is written NOWHERE that that have to play all games, so as usual you are talking crap. Even super humans (I am not sure what that is) get injured or out of form or tired. Use your brain a bit not your bitterness
like I say I did mention that they get judged on face value by fans but being your so far away it might have been lost in translation so I will try to make it simple for a person like you to understand. Fans judge players certain ways we don't know the nuts and bolts of what's actually in his contract so we judge on what we see and know. If Lucas and Steven Gerrard are both on 50k a week and all of a sudden Gerrard is given 100k a week we as fans expect Gerrard to play twice a well as Lucas for that sort of money, if he doesn't and plays the same or just a little bit better then Gerrard is open to critism. If you look at another example, why did Andy Carroll get treated differently from Craig Bellamy and David NGog...it was because for 35 million pounds he had to play considerably better to justify that outlay, this is the way fans judge players and why players can't hide behind the excuse he's only human he can't play well all the time, that might work for a bog standard ordinary player on 20 grand a week but certainly not one on 100k a week.

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Originally Posted By WiseOne
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Originally Posted By WiseOne
The point I am making is a simple one, don't use the excuse they are only human and can't play well all the time...they aren't because they are payed super human wages so they have to be judged on superhuman standards which means for that sort of money you have to play well all the time. If players don't like that, don't think it's fair to expect them to play well all the time or think they are being judged too harshly then fine....just don't put your name on a contract giving you an obscene amount of money or a weeks money it takes an average man about 5 years too earn...simple....


In their contract it is written NOWHERE that that have to play all games, so as usual you are talking crap. Even super humans (I am not sure what that is) get injured or out of form or tired. Use your brain a bit not your bitterness
like I say I did mention that they get judged on face value by fans but being your so far away it might have been lost in translation so I will try to make it simple for a person like you to understand. Fans judge players certain ways we don't know the nuts and bolts of what's actually in his contract so we judge on what we see and know. If Lucas and Steven Gerrard are both on 50k a week and all of a sudden Gerrard is given 100k a week we as fans expect Gerrard to play twice a well as Lucas for that sort of money, if he doesn't and plays the same or just a little bit better then Gerrard is open to critism. If you look at another example, why did Andy Carroll get treated differently from Craig Bellamy and David NGog...it was because for 35 million pounds he had to play considerably better to justify that outlay, this is the way fans judge players and why players can't hide behind the excuse he's only human he can't play well all the time, that might work for a bog standard ordinary player on 20 grand a week but certainly not one on 100k a week.


When all else fails you always show your ignorance.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By WiseOne
The point I am making is a simple one, don't use the excuse they are only human and can't play well all the time...they aren't because they are payed super human wages so they have to be judged on superhuman standards which means for that sort of money you have to play well all the time. If players don't like that, don't think it's fair to expect them to play well all the time or think they are being judged too harshly then fine....just don't put your name on a contract giving you an obscene amount of money or a weeks money it takes an average man about 5 years too earn...simple....


In their contract it is written NOWHERE that that have to play all games, so as usual you are talking crap. Even super humans (I am not sure what that is) get injured or out of form or tired. Use your brain a bit not your bitterness
like I say I did mention that they get judged on face value by fans but being your so far away it might have been lost in translation so I will try to make it simple for a person like you to understand. Fans judge players certain ways we don't know the nuts and bolts of what's actually in his contract so we judge on what we see and know. If Lucas and Steven Gerrard are both on 50k a week and all of a sudden Gerrard is given 100k a week we as fans expect Gerrard to play twice a well as Lucas for that sort of money, if he doesn't and plays the same or just a little bit better then Gerrard is open to critism. If you look at another example, why did Andy Carroll get treated differently from Craig Bellamy and David NGog...it was because for 35 million pounds he had to play considerably better to justify that outlay, this is the way fans judge players and why players can't hide behind the excuse he's only human he can't play well all the time, that might work for a bog standard ordinary player on 20 grand a week but certainly not one on 100k a week.


When all else fails you always show your ignorance.
must be ignorance because I haven't the foggiest about what you are now talking about ?

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I don't know why people are so bitter about how much footballers earn, it just comes over as sad. It's obscene but who cares. Film stars, sports stars, F1 drivers... they get paid because they can do what others can't and it makes the owners a lot of money, who wouldn't take an extra 50k a week from FSG if they could?
It's a short career, would you be happier if they earnt the average wage?

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