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It is difficult to understand the best means of handling pressure in freak runs of results. There has to be a collective push in the right direction.

The worrying moments yesterday were in the lack of togetherness. Sure, both goals we conceded were mistakes in some capacity, but if you look at the cohesion between staff and players, it felt as though Klopp left the players to figure out the first half for themselves, which didn't work. He also, continues, to not make all his changes until the last few minutes, which is both a show of trust in players, but also a lack of understanding that changes can affect games.

The defense left Mignolet stranded for the first goal, outnumbered two on one in the six yard box. Matip then allowed Niasse to run off him, but Lucas' inept defending caught him several yards out of a suitable position.

To add insult to injury, we are now just blindly over-filling central areas with players when we should be pulling them back to allow more space to the ones in those positions we have faith in. How many times did Lallana, Firmino, Coutinho and Can run into the same positions competing for the same ball.

There is a lack of unity in the way the team plays and approaches games at the moment, specifically against the lower 10 teams who intend to overfill the defensive areas to restrict our chances. That overly defensive strategy employed becomes a pure excuse at this point. They do it with a lot of teams, like Chelsea and the rest of the top six.

So who do you want as manager, our last British manager didn't even got to a cup final? Big Sam maybe or who else?

my point is that we are paying such an obscene amount of money to a foreign coach to get us a top six place and no cup success when I honestly believe you could still get that with out budget with most managers in the top half of the table. I keep saying it and will continue to...Klopp has come here with this big reputation.. when is he going to demonstrate or show us why to man the is so highly regarded.

One FA Cup Semi-Final, One League Cup Semi Final, 7th, 6th and One 2nd placed finish in 3 seasons

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One League Cup Final, One Europa League Final, One League Cup Semi-Final, 8th and currently a Top Four position back into the CL... in two seasons

I realise that last point is current. Either way. What do you want to see to show progress that isn't already self-evident?

has he done better than Rodgers second place finish? Are we better than back then if the answer is yes then he has improved us if the answer Is no then we haven't and are going backwards.

Management is about competitiveness in a multitude of competitions, not just the league, for a start.

Liverpools team, a month ago, was regarded as the second best in the league, and is certainly a far better "team" than the one that challenged for the title that year. A freak run of poor results doesn't change that in my eyes.

That "team" was so reliant on Suarez producing moments of magic, that it covered over the obvious cracks. Most of those players don't make our best XI now.

Honestly, why are we comparing Klopp to Rodgers? He's only been at the club for 1 1/2 years, sure we are allowed to criticize him, as he has made a few bad decisions over the last few weeks, however, this does not make him an inept manager like Rodgers was.

I hope to god we qualify for Europe next year, as this season should be an indication to Klopp that we need some serious strengthening.

you make some fair points which I accept, for me I hope we don't qualify for Europe as if we did we seriously would of been fighting relegation this season given how poor the team and squad is,

But don't you think getting champions league football will open new opportunities for us? If we had qualified for Europe by winning Europa, I am sure we would have attracted better players. We don't have the financial capabilities to offer a large contract to the 'better' players, we are behind on our rivals in that regard.

I honestly don't think with our structure it makes the blind bit of difference regarding what players we buy if we played champions league. If you look at the players Klopp signs in his career he never buys top draw players always the tier down so he can develop them so for that reason and the fact FSG wouldn't pay 200k a week for top draw either it makes no difference. The other point is last time we qualified top draw players never arrived, we ended up with players like Lovren and Ballotelli also Sakho and Markova all could of been signed anyway. I think another thing might also kick in is the fact if we did qualify for the champions league I reckon FSG would hold back some of the money and use it to pay off there loan on the new tier we built.