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Serious Pressure on Jurgen Klopp now after today's defeat and for me he hasn't really improved us since he's arrived, He may have done well at Dortmund but here he just doesn't seem to have got to grips with the English game. The man just seems to be trading on past reputation unless people want to just judge him on the first 19 games instead of over a full season, he's also made a mockery of the Cups which is the only silverware a Club like ours is ever going to win so what I am saying is what's the point of Jurgen Klopp a man who is on obscene amount of wages yet we are no better than under Brendan Rodgers League wise.
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The song and dance on the side lines and at the press conferences is starting to look like a show. Is Klopp here just for the money or is he serious about winning something?
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so notsowiseone,what is your suggestion if we don't want anyone who has had a proven track record?
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You keep saying this on every thread TKP... Klopp chose to buy those players. The money could easily have been split between more players, yet he chose two players who are currently our highest contributor to goals, and the man who salvaged a draw to the likely champions. Both, therefore, big game players and worth paying the money he did. He wouldn't be at the club and signing new deals if he didn't believe in himself, his abilities, his team, and the backing of the staff.
How can you possible know what he is thinking about his own squad, other than what he says to people in the press?! All hypothetical.
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The thing is that we are no better since Klopp took over, he has been given sufficient funds yet we still look as weak as ever especially in defence. Why did he not strenghthen the defence in the January transfer window, why is he still playing a midfielder at left back, he lets a centre half go out on loan and doesn't bring anyone in, let's Mane go on national team duty and brings nobody in to replace him, Shane Long or even Peter Crouch would of done even to provide a plan B which to this day we still haven't got. All I have heard from fellow posters is the Klopp is a world class manager....when are we going to see him demonstrate this? he's already admitted he holds the reigns money and transfer wise so it's his decision not to strenghthen...
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Our target at the start of the season was 4th. We're in 4th - all is good. Looking at the forums these last few weeks, people are blaming Klopp because "THEY" decided we would win the league, and now it's clear we're not!!!! Don't blame someone else because of your own unrealistic expectations.
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Those of us who follow Bundesliga will be aware that he is here and not at one of the other famous clubs because of a shocking last season at Dortmund. In the end there was a mini recover to finish a distant seventh, 33pts off the top - but they were struggling in the relegation zone at one stage. The following is taken from February 2015:
'Wednesday night's 1-0 home defeat by Augsburg was the latest nadir in Dortmund's worst season in living memory, an evening that ended with goalkeeper Roman Weidenfeller and defender Mats Hummels walking up to the fence on the 'Yellow Wall' to try and placate fans whose patience has long been exhausted. Klopp and the rest of the team hung back, aware the reaction to their 11th defeat of the Bundesliga season was frustration and not quite believing the whistles and jeers were so angry. Usually there are very choreographed displays of unity between players and fans at German games, sometimes even in defeat, but this was definitely not the right time for that. Dortmund's season started with a 2-0 home defeat by Bayer Leverkusen, a result that punctured the pre-season optimism, but was then followed by two wins. Then, their world caved in. Incredibly, Dortmund, lost six of their next seven league matches, dropping to the brink of the relegation places. Klopp and his players described it as a 'blip' and pointed to their fine form in the Champions League, where the first four group stage games had been wins. Scraped home wins over Borussia Monchengladbach and Hoffenheim aside, however, things just didn't pick up. The weeks and matches ticked by without improvement, confidence drained further, questions were posed but no answers were forthcoming. The defensive mistakes continued to cost points, terrace criticism grew, a 'blip' became a full-blown crisis. They dipped into the relegation zone just before the winter pause, losing at Werder Bremen, and then, after all the claims that a corner had been turned, plumbed even greater depths upon the resumption. Any credit from their goalless draw at Leverkusen on Saturday was nullified by unfavourable results elsewhere, which sent them to 18th and last place. The ultimate humiliation. Dortmund flirted with relegation in the mid-noughties but it was nothing like the current crisis. Too big to go down? Don't believe it for a second.'
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Those of us who follow Bundesliga will be aware that he is here and not at one of the other famous clubs because of a shocking last season at Dortmund. In the end there was a mini recover to finish a distant seventh, 33pts off the top - but they were struggling in the relegation zone at one stage. The following is taken from February 2015:
'Wednesday night's 1-0 home defeat by Augsburg was the latest nadir in Dortmund's worst season in living memory, an evening that ended with goalkeeper Roman Weidenfeller and defender Mats Hummels walking up to the fence on the 'Yellow Wall' to try and placate fans whose patience has long been exhausted. Klopp and the rest of the team hung back, aware the reaction to their 11th defeat of the Bundesliga season was frustration and not quite believing the whistles and jeers were so angry. Usually there are very choreographed displays of unity between players and fans at German games, sometimes even in defeat, but this was definitely not the right time for that. Dortmund's season started with a 2-0 home defeat by Bayer Leverkusen, a result that punctured the pre-season optimism, but was then followed by two wins. Then, their world caved in. Incredibly, Dortmund, lost six of their next seven league matches, dropping to the brink of the relegation places. Klopp and his players described it as a 'blip' and pointed to their fine form in the Champions League, where the first four group stage games had been wins. Scraped home wins over Borussia Monchengladbach and Hoffenheim aside, however, things just didn't pick up. The weeks and matches ticked by without improvement, confidence drained further, questions were posed but no answers were forthcoming. The defensive mistakes continued to cost points, terrace criticism grew, a 'blip' became a full-blown crisis. They dipped into the relegation zone just before the winter pause, losing at Werder Bremen, and then, after all the claims that a corner had been turned, plumbed even greater depths upon the resumption. Any credit from their goalless draw at Leverkusen on Saturday was nullified by unfavourable results elsewhere, which sent them to 18th and last place. The ultimate humiliation. Dortmund flirted with relegation in the mid-noughties but it was nothing like the current crisis. Too big to go down? Don't believe it for a second.' You look different in that dress Spangley
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You look different in that dress Spangley
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Our target at the start of the season was 4th. We're in 4th - all is good. Looking at the forums these last few weeks, people are blaming Klopp because "THEY" decided we would win the league, and now it's clear we're not!!!! Don't blame someone else because of your own unrealistic expectations. Our target is to finish fourth? You can't be serious. "Let's not try to win anything, lets see is we can be fourth and then history will read "2017 LIVERPOOL ARE MIGHTY AND FINISH err FOURTH - HOO RAH!!!!!!!
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