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I know Fergie said what he said but are you seriously telling me Charlie Adam brought anything else to the table other than set pieces, We all know how incompetent Dalglish was as a manager but Fergie lured Dalglish in by saying what he did and what's more duped him into paying over the odds for him to boot, Fergie knew full well Dalglish was ripe for a sting and he never let him down and fell for it. I think you don't know what you want.You keep saying you want our managers to take the cups seriously, no? KD took the cups seriously, went to 2 finals and won one, the last trophy we won by the way. You just like spreading your bile here to annoy everybody, looks like getting banned doesn't change anything. Dalglish did get to two finals and deserves credit for reaching them but again it was similar to Klopp last season in that he got through the rounds through good fortune rather than wanting to take them serious. If you can remember right, we played Chelsea away in one of the League Cup rounds and Dalglish publicaly told Liverpool fans to take into consideration he wasn't going to play a proper team before paying money out and traveling, disgraceful. Like I say Klopp reached two finals last season would you say his stance and opinion on cups is the same too because we have clearly seen last season and this that he doesn't want success. No bile just facts. Good fortune? We beat both Manchester teams to reach the finals as well and in that season they finished first and second in the league, facts as well, no bile.
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If you are taking cups serious like you said why would Dalglish tell fans to consider money and travel before deciding wether to make the trip because he already said he would be fielding a youth team...they were facts....
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If you are taking cups serious like you said why would Dalglish tell fans to consider money and travel before deciding wether to make the trip because he already said he would be fielding a youth team...they were facts.... As we went to 2 finals winning one, I can assume we drew or won, meaning that he knew the youth team would do the job. You don't need to be too wise to understand that you know.
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If you are taking cups serious like you said why would Dalglish tell fans to consider money and travel before deciding wether to make the trip because he already said he would be fielding a youth team...they were facts.... As we went to 2 finals winning one, I can assume we drew or won, meaning that he knew the youth team would do the job. You don't need to be too wise to understand that you know. dont you think when you reach a certain stage and you are close to winning a trophy you all of a sudden think it's important and take it serious even though for all the earlier rounds you have seen the cup as a hindrance and nusience. We all know what Jurgen the German thinks of domestic Cup competitions yet low and behold we reach the semi finals and he decides it is worth winning after all and fields his strongest side apart from the goalie, don't have to be wise to work that one out.
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If you are taking cups serious like you said why would Dalglish tell fans to consider money and travel before deciding wether to make the trip because he already said he would be fielding a youth team...they were facts.... As we went to 2 finals winning one, I can assume we drew or won, meaning that he knew the youth team would do the job. You don't need to be too wise to understand that you know. dont you think when you reach a certain stage and you are close to winning a trophy you all of a sudden think it's important and take it serious even though for all the earlier rounds you have seen the cup as a hindrance and nusience. We all know what Jurgen the German thinks of domestic Cup competitions yet low and behold we reach the semi finals and he decides it is worth winning after all and fields his strongest side apart from the goalie, don't have to be wise to work that one out. The early rounds have weak teams and your reserve players should be good enough to win those games, one reserve player might earn more than the whole opponents team. If you don't give play time to your reserves then, when will they have the opportunity to play? Of course when the opponents are stronger in the later stage, you play your stronger team. This is called squad management Oh WiseOne.
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dont you think when you reach a certain stage and you are close to winning a trophy you all of a sudden think it's important and take it serious even though for all the earlier rounds you have seen the cup as a hindrance and nusience. We all know what Jurgen the German thinks of domestic Cup competitions yet low and behold we reach the semi finals and he decides it is worth winning after all and fields his strongest side apart from the goalie, don't have to be wise to work that one out. Please feel free to have a look at the team selected for Burton away, then Derby away in the League Cup 2nd and 3rd round respectively this season. Extremely strong teams in both gams so once again your 'facts' are inaccurate.
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dont you think when you reach a certain stage and you are close to winning a trophy you all of a sudden think it's important and take it serious even though for all the earlier rounds you have seen the cup as a hindrance and nusience. We all know what Jurgen the German thinks of domestic Cup competitions yet low and behold we reach the semi finals and he decides it is worth winning after all and fields his strongest side apart from the goalie, don't have to be wise to work that one out. Please feel free to have a look at the team selected for Burton away, then Derby away in the League Cup 2nd and 3rd round respectively this season. Extremely strong teams in both gams so once again your 'facts' are inaccurate. think somebody already answered that question a while back, he fielded a strong team against Burton not so strong against Derby where he played Karius, Gruiijk whatever his name is and Lucas to name but a few, against Spurs in the next round he made 11 changes from the previous game in the league, to be honest am astonished you think Jurgen the German takes domestic cups serious really I am, but don't matter we can agree to disagree.
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So who thinks all is rosy then 60's? Any links or quotes to tht effect?
And maybe you, like G, sorry Vish, know more than Klopp?
For me his plan was always to not load the team with too many new players as we've all seen how well that works. I'd be very surprised if any teams plan for much business in January based on the inactivity of most of our rivals and how notoriously hard it is to get players away from their teams.
Our MANAGER obviously doesn't see value or that a deal can be done in this window, like it or lump it.
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So who thinks all is rosy then 60's? Any links or quotes to tht effect?
And maybe you, like G, sorry Vish, know more than Klopp?
For me his plan was always to not load the team with too many new players as we've all seen how well that works. I'd be very surprised if any teams plan for much business in January based on the inactivity of most of our rivals and how notoriously hard it is to get players away from their teams.
Our MANAGER obviously doesn't see value or that a deal can be done in this window, like it or lump it. I agree, I think Klopps plan was always to go through the season with the squad he had at the end of August, I doubt he ever planned to sign anyone in January unless someone like Dortmund said Pulisic is available, come and get him, highly unlikely for any big team to release a first team player. What I do wonder is if there were a few players he wanted and could not get for whatever reason, like Pulisic/Zielinski etc, we were also a midfielder short with Milner at LB, I don't know if he really thought he'd keep Milner there, maybe he was hoping Moreno would get his act together, or Gomez might have come back faster, we also lost Ings to another bad injury, so he was probably going to be the striker cover/Sturridge replacement coming back before Xmas, also coming back he would give the forward line extra cover with mane at the ANC. To be fair, any decent manager should be setting up their squad for the season, January is normally for clubs who panic buy/take risks to stay in the PL, like Crystal Palace are doing now.
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So who thinks all is rosy then 60's? Any links or quotes to tht effect?
And maybe you, like G, sorry Vish, know more than Klopp?
For me his plan was always to not load the team with too many new players as we've all seen how well that works. I'd be very surprised if any teams plan for much business in January based on the inactivity of most of our rivals and how notoriously hard it is to get players away from their teams.
Our MANAGER obviously doesn't see value or that a deal can be done in this window, like it or lump it. 1-3 players in Jan wouldn't load the team with many new players. And yes Red Scouser 2, Klopp also can make mistakes, he is only human.
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