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I'm not going to mention FSG, they are beyond winding me up.
BUT I think its important to remember that this is Klopp's first full season.
No doubt senior professionals who can't hack it will be sold in the summer.
Lucas
Moreno
Lovren
Sturridge
should all be gone by then.
And if you look at his signings, it is hard to argue that Mane and Matip have both been our best players this season.
Wijnaldum has looked useful when played in the right position.
Also our most promising players Coutinho and Gomez have both been given new 5yr deals.
Youngsters are being blooded as well.
Maybe this is a year in transition.
Maybe FSG will surprise us ( I personally doubt it).
But I will not be getting on Jürgen's back over this.
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Yet you moan like a $2 who're in other threads?? You're one big contradiction!
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I moan about FSG not Klopp.
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But you're basically saying that they've backed him with their signings and new contracts.
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Let's cut to the chase....how long do you give him? He's into his second season, second season trophyless, was brought in to improve on Rodgers who won a cup, hasn't done that, was supposed to improve the awful defence, hasn't done that, was supposed to get us playing better football...well half done that but is it better than Rodgers second place season, and the most important of the lot are we any nearer to winning a trophy. I am pretty sure we are paying Klopp more money than we payed Rodgers and for me we are no better off in fact even under Dalglish our season never really ended in January.
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Let's cut to the chase....how long do you give him? He's into his second season, second season trophyless, was brought in to improve on Rodgers who won a cup, hasn't done that, was supposed to improve the awful defence, hasn't done that, was supposed to get us playing better football...well half done that but is it better than Rodgers second place season, and the most important of the lot are we any nearer to winning a trophy. I am pretty sure we are paying Klopp more money than we payed Rodgers and for me we are no better off in fact even under Dalglish our season never really ended in January. Which cup Rodgers won again? I must have missed that one too, same as the banned backpass.
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Let's cut to the chase....how long do you give him? He's into his second season, second season trophyless, was brought in to improve on Rodgers who won a cup, hasn't done that, was supposed to improve the awful defence, hasn't done that, was supposed to get us playing better football...well half done that but is it better than Rodgers second place season, and the most important of the lot are we any nearer to winning a trophy. I am pretty sure we are paying Klopp more money than we payed Rodgers and for me we are no better off in fact even under Dalglish our season never really ended in January. Rodgers never won a trophy or even got to a final. Klopp got us to 2 finals andvthat has to be better than a second place finish in a league that is a dead competition for us doesn't it?
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Klopp's position is not in question. We'll get nowhere by changing the manager every few seasons. But he needs to adapt.
I don't buy into 'it's only his first full season' as mitigation. That usually applies to managers who took over late in the previous season. Klopp had nearly 3/4 of last season. That was a luxury as it allowed him so many months to settle into the job. He earned bonus points for the two cup finals.
But he has failed to use the long honeymoon period properly. The warning signs were there in the manner of our cup final defeats last year. And again immediately into this season when we lost to Burnley. We don't seem to have the right balance - great when we play well, but prone to awful results too.
Rather than seeing this as his first full season, I see that he is currently in his 3rd transfer window. And yet we still have dodgy keepers, an unsettled back line and a lack of leadership. It's going to be diffcult to fix this in just one summer window.
Houston...
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Let's cut to the chase....how long do you give him? He's into his second season, second season trophyless, was brought in to improve on Rodgers who won a cup, hasn't done that, was supposed to improve the awful defence, hasn't done that, was supposed to get us playing better football...well half done that but is it better than Rodgers second place season, and the most important of the lot are we any nearer to winning a trophy. I am pretty sure we are paying Klopp more money than we payed Rodgers and for me we are no better off in fact even under Dalglish our season never really ended in January. Which cup Rodgers won again? I must have missed that one too, same as the banned backpass. i apologise it was Dalglish that won us the League cup against Cardiff not Rodgers so I do apologise with my incorrect statement, consider it retracted.
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Klopp's position is not in question. We'll get nowhere by changing the manager every few seasons. But he needs to adapt.
I don't buy into 'it's only his first full season' as mitigation. That usually applies to managers who took over late in the previous season. Klopp had nearly 3/4 of last season. That was a luxury as it allowed him so many months to settle into the job. He earned bonus points for the two cup finals.
But he has failed to use the long honeymoon period properly. The warning signs were there in the manner of our cup final defeats last year. And again immediately into this season when we lost to Burnley. We don't seem to have the right balance - great when we play well, but prone to awful results too.
Rather than seeing this as his first full season, I see that he is currently in his 3rd transfer window. And yet we still have dodgy keepers, an unsettled back line and a lack of leadership. It's going to be diffcult to fix this in just one summer window.
Houston... dont you think about four seasons is quite normal to keep a manager for in today's game. I personally think if a managers not up to it he should be replaced with no sentiment applied as it's a weakness on the Clubs part if they do keep him through sentiment. I think we just know that Leicester will probably replace the greatest manager in there history before not too long despite him winning the League and that's football I am afraid, I know with our Club being so engulfed in sentiment if Raneiri won us a league he could go fifteen seasons without winning a trophy and finishing mid table before our fans would want a change, sentiment has no place in football now that it's a business.
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