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wilkij1975 #555233 26/01/17 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
You know nothing about me or how I'm feeling so cut outvthevsmug bullshitte.

You were telling people how and what to post. It's not up to you what I or anyone posts on here, that's dunks job.

So just keep it to yourself and continue to wallow in your darkness.


You get like this I know. I get the excuses are running out. Desperation mode sinking in. I think you need to read what I said. I raised a question about what he said not tell someone what to write and what not too.

Im not a mug either, I will say one thing tough. When I got it wrong about Mane i had the balls to come on and admit I was wrong. I never once shy away from it. You have been wrong on so many levels, and i get you may be a proud person and dont want to admit the flaws at the club. But I honestly think you promote insanity. We've been doing the same thing at the club expecting different results each time never changing the formula, just the manager or quality of players. And you seem to approve of this the majority of the time, and very rarely offer a decent critical view on issues like this.

You can get personal with me and other people who you may disagree with on here. All I said was "why not have a view on the topic he said" which was never brought up here before. I dont "wallow in darkness" because I look forward to the point the club runs out of excuses and a change is made in the establishment. I didnt expect us to win yesterday if im honest. I thought it was gonna be 1-1. Im not gonna change my opinion so the snowflakes can be satisfied and at ease.

fazakerley red 1 #555238 26/01/17 07:14 PM
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No you were telling us what to post. It's not your place to do that.

Yes you were wrong about Mane. Very, very wrong in fact. The way you were bleeting about him in the summer was laughable and well done you for being a big boy and admitting you were wrong.

I don't have anything to admit to being wrong too though. I have a view on things that may be right or wrong but I've never said it's right, just what I think is going on. I've also never tried to cover the deficiencies of the club. You're mistaking me not ranting a raving like a spoilt school girl as me thinking all is rosey. I'm just level headed enough to react in an adult way. You might want to try it.

I get the impression that you're quite enjoying this little down turn in form as you seem to enjoy the little I told you so. That's fine and it'll be interesting to see if you stick around once we start winning again as your absecnce spoke volumes to me.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
No you were telling us what to post. It's not your place to do that.

Yes you were wrong about Mane. Very, very wrong in fact. The way you were bleeting about him in the summer was laughable and well done you for being a big boy and admitting you were wrong.

I don't have anything to admit to being wrong too though. I have a view on things that may be right or wrong but I've never said it's right, just what I think is going on. I've also never tried to cover the deficiencies of the club. You're mistaking me not ranting a raving like a spoilt school girl as me thinking all is rosey. I'm just level headed enough to react in an adult way. You might want to try it.

I get the impression that you're quite enjoying this little down turn in form as you seem to enjoy the little I told you so. That's fine and it'll be interesting to see if you stick around once we start winning again as your absecnce spoke volumes to me.


Someone on posting and calling people "big boy" and "spoilt school girl" really shouldnt be trying to take a moral high ground. If you can show me where I said what anyone could post would be great?

Remember this post started as a thread purely about liverpool. You brought it off topic by getting personal. Not me, think you fail to remember that. You came on constantly waffling on about how we really didnt need anymore players and the squad could cope. Well we cant cope. The last few weeks results have proven that.

Im disappointed about the way we have been playing and the results. I just remember in the summer specifically saying what happens when it all falls down?

If i were to say to you we cant compete you would say we could. The owners said we could compete. We NEVER have. They lied to us but you derive from that, that im conspiring against FSG. Im not im just saying they said something and did the complete opposite.

My opinion doesnt mean much to you, and i really dont care. I dont come on here to suit your needs nor will I change my views just to suit the snowflake groups needs. Im confident we will start winning again sometime. It will only be games tough not trophies. On the grand scheme of things we had a great chance to play against Utd in a wembley final and we [oops] it away because of how bad the squad is. Thats just a fact. Paint it up whatever way you want, I just know people like shankly would be sick at how the club is been ran now.

Ambitious1 #555249 26/01/17 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
No you were telling us what to post. It's not your place to do that.

Yes you were wrong about Mane. Very, very wrong in fact. The way you were bleeting about him in the summer was laughable and well done you for being a big boy and admitting you were wrong.

I don't have anything to admit to being wrong too though. I have a view on things that may be right or wrong but I've never said it's right, just what I think is going on. I've also never tried to cover the deficiencies of the club. You're mistaking me not ranting a raving like a spoilt school girl as me thinking all is rosey. I'm just level headed enough to react in an adult way. You might want to try it.

I get the impression that you're quite enjoying this little down turn in form as you seem to enjoy the little I told you so. That's fine and it'll be interesting to see if you stick around once we start winning again as your absecnce spoke volumes to me.


Someone on posting and calling people "big boy" and "spoilt school girl" really shouldnt be trying to take a moral high ground. If you can show me where I said what anyone could post would be great?

Remember this post started as a thread purely about liverpool. You brought it off topic by getting personal. Not me, think you fail to remember that. You came on constantly waffling on about how we really didnt need anymore players and the squad could cope. Well we cant cope. The last few weeks results have proven that.

Im disappointed about the way we have been playing and the results. I just remember in the summer specifically saying what happens when it all falls down?

If i were to say to you we cant compete you would say we could. The owners said we could compete. We NEVER have. They lied to us but you derive from that, that im conspiring against FSG. Im not im just saying they said something and did the complete opposite.

My opinion doesnt mean much to you, and i really dont care. I dont come on here to suit your needs nor will I change my views just to suit the snowflake groups needs. Im confident we will start winning again sometime. It will only be games tough not trophies. On the grand scheme of things we had a great chance to play against Utd in a wembley final and we [oops] it away because of how bad the squad is. Thats just a fact. Paint it up whatever way you want, I just know people like shankly would be sick at how the club is been ran now.


Here is what ypou said:

"Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying?"

That is telling us what to post.

I'm glad you're dissapointed as we all are. We'll let you know what happens when it all falls down as it's hardly happened yet has it?

People need to stop banging on about what FSG said. They either lied or vastly under-estimated what resources they'd need to compete. It was said very early on in their tenure and is one of many mistakes they've made. I'm no fan of theirs but will give them credit where it's due unlike some. They've invested anything they've made from sales etc. back into the club, which I'll give credit for even if most of it was wasted. I'd also not be sad to see them sell up but we should all be careful what we wish for.

Why would your opinion matter that much to me? It's your opinion not mine so will never matter that much to me nor will mine you. I just disagree with you and your general whinging way and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not attacking you or calling you names, just not agreeing.

fazakerley red 1 #555253 26/01/17 07:44 PM
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Oh yeah, moral high ground? what's this 'snowflake group'?

wilkij1975 #555256 26/01/17 07:47 PM
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"Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying?"
eh wilk thats a question. Theres a question mark at the end of it. Im just saying he raised a great point and would make people think hard about players at the club.

We have 1 LC trophy under them and thats all. Can you explain or even justify that? Because the way its perceived is your happy never to win a trophy because there could be worse owners out there. They have had 6/7 years and just the 1 thing to answer for with it. How much longer do they need or would you give them? Remember it doesnt matter what way you wanna paint it, it stands as premier league titles: Liverpool 0 Leicester 1.

They are the owners and in positions of authority. They shouldnt be saying stupid statements if they cant back them up and do the complete opposite. Because I want to see us back at the top and winning trophies thats a whinging way? Well then 99% of us are like that. Its not easy wilk, not everyone can pull the blanket over the eyes and pretend all is great. Eternal optimism and wishful thinking are dangerous. We have to deal in facts and statements not letting our heads run off with the fairies.

Ambitious1 #555260 26/01/17 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
"Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying?"
eh wilk thats a question. Theres a question mark at the end of it. Im just saying he raised a great point and would make people think hard about players at the club.

We have 1 LC trophy under them and thats all. Can you explain or even justify that? Because the way its perceived is your happy never to win a trophy because there could be worse owners out there. They have had 6/7 years and just the 1 thing to answer for with it. How much longer do they need or would you give them? Remember it doesnt matter what way you wanna paint it, it stands as premier league titles: Liverpool 0 Leicester 1.

They are the owners and in positions of authority. They shouldnt be saying stupid statements if they cant back them up and do the complete opposite. Because I want to see us back at the top and winning trophies thats a whinging way? Well then 99% of us are like that. Its not easy wilk, not everyone can pull the blanket over the eyes and pretend all is great. Eternal optimism and wishful thinking are dangerous. We have to deal in facts and statements not letting our heads run off with the fairies.


Who's justifying anything? I'm certainly not. And it's only your massively wrong perception that I'm happy we're not winning things, probably based on the fact that I am more level headed than your screaming out approach. We all deal with things in our own way and with age I hope you mellow as most do and maybe then you'll see things more clearly.

And who is hiding behind any blanket? Who is pretending all is great? Again, just because people chose to be a little bit less over the top than you, doesn't mean they think all is rosy.

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But yet it seems as if your gonna allow them to carry on be unsuccessful? If the worst does happen and lets say Klopp leaves and goes. Will you still wait for another 4/5 years to win a trophy when our next manager aka gerrard takes over? At what point do you say enough is enough? We cant afford to fall any further behind because we will end up like forest and villa. They said the same things, we are too big to fall. Whats to say it couldnt happen to us?

Im a realist I only deal in facts, statements players and trophies. The positives are on a much smaller scale than the negatives as to what FSG bring to the club. Thats just the truth. I get we would have to be careful changing owners but in strictly football terms, have we gone forward rather than back since the last 2 cowboys were there? Im not talking about monetary im talking football.

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So what can I do to not allow them to carry on? Shall I tweet him or Facebook him and see if I can get him to fukk off? I'll be as happy as the next man to see them sell up.

You are not a realist. You may deal in the facts as you say but always with a negative view of them. You're far from balanced and a true realist would see the good and bad or in other words the real situation. Not everything is all doom and gloom yet that's all you see.

And you didn't let me know what this snowflake lark is about?

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
So what can I do to not allow them to carry on? Shall I tweet him or Facebook him and see if I can get him to fukk off? I'll be as happy as the next man to see them sell up.

You are not a realist. You may deal in the facts as you say but always with a negative view of them. You're far from balanced and a true realist would see the good and bad or in other words the real situation. Not everything is all doom and gloom yet that's all you see.

And you didn't let me know what this snowflake lark is about?


Remember the last set of owners? They were forced out by the fans. You me and everyone else on here got rid of them. We have the power to get rid of them, the right people just need to be supported.

From 05-10 we had a champions league, a champions league final and an Fa cup. From 10-17 we have had 1 LC. Thats what i deal in. How can anything positive be taken from the last 7 years? Thats pathetic for a club our size i think. Or maybe are you suggesting we arent as big as we use to be and should just settle for much lower? Its not me been sarcastic or trying to catch you out just an honest question.

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