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Ambitious1 #555181 26/01/17 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
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I think players find it really hard to succeed when they sign, a suffocating environment engulfs the Club now, fuelled by the weight of expectation, ridiculous standards and players being measured against past players, it's virtually impossible for new signings to flourish and survive. I thought Matip was steady at most at the start of the season yet I have heard posters on here saying we have found the new Sami, a player plays six or seven good games on the bounce for us and straight away he is elevated to world class status, the team had a good first half of the season and people spoke about winning League Championships, I shouldn't laugh but it's hard not to.


I read what you said once and thought about replying critically but after reading it again my view completely changed and Ive got to agree with you. Theres players been elevated onto a status of world class after a few game or a decent spell. Take sturridge as an example. He had 1 great season for us and thats it. Ever since suarez left hes played about 5/6 good games in each of those seasons after.

I see some people throwing players like Gomez into the deep end. He played about 6 games for us before he got injured and we know nothing about him really other than those 6/7 games he was really good in. Other than that we shouldnt be under pressure to put him straight back in now because of how bad Lovren and Klavan are. I see players like Wijnaldum constantly escape criticism from people when he passes the ball sideways for 90 mins a game. I remember we all (including me) gave out and gave Hendo doing it too much. Hes immune to criticism it seems because hes a klopp player.


Jaysus you're like the Morrisey of Koptalk.

Shaggydog #555198 26/01/17 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By WiseOne
I think players find it really hard to succeed when they sign, a suffocating environment engulfs the Club now, fuelled by the weight of expectation, ridiculous standards and players being measured against past players, it's virtually impossible for new signings to flourish and survive. I thought Matip was steady at most at the start of the season yet I have heard posters on here saying we have found the new Sami, a player plays six or seven good games on the bounce for us and straight away he is elevated to world class status, the team had a good first half of the season and people spoke about winning League Championships, I shouldn't laugh but it's hard not to.


But apparently it's very easy for you to gloat.


You do realise who this is?

wilkij1975 #555201 26/01/17 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Originally Posted By WiseOne
I think players find it really hard to succeed when they sign, a suffocating environment engulfs the Club now, fuelled by the weight of expectation, ridiculous standards and players being measured against past players, it's virtually impossible for new signings to flourish and survive. I thought Matip was steady at most at the start of the season yet I have heard posters on here saying we have found the new Sami, a player plays six or seven good games on the bounce for us and straight away he is elevated to world class status, the team had a good first half of the season and people spoke about winning League Championships, I shouldn't laugh but it's hard not to.


But apparently it's very easy for you to gloat.


You do realise who this is?


Yip, a wolf in sheeps clothing.

His writing style always gives him away.

fazakerley red 1 #555203 26/01/17 05:43 PM
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Just why though?

fazakerley red 1 #555204 26/01/17 05:55 PM
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Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying? Why not agree or disagree with him and point out things he might be right or wrong in saying? Theres no need to go off topic and personal because all you snowflakes have ran out of excuses. "Next year is our year" yeah?

Ambitious1 #555205 26/01/17 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying? Why not agree or disagree with him and point out things he might be right or wrong in saying? Theres no need to go off topic and personal because all you snowflakes have ran out of excuses. "Next year is our year" yeah?


Do we need your permission to post now?

I'm not attacking him or being personal, just pointing out that the perennial returnee has returned.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Rather than getting personal or off subject why not have something constructive to say about what hes saying? Why not agree or disagree with him and point out things he might be right or wrong in saying? Theres no need to go off topic and personal because all you snowflakes have ran out of excuses. "Next year is our year" yeah?


Do we need your permission to post now?

I'm not attacking him or being personal, just pointing out that the perennial returnee has returned.


Now your trying to stir up stuff with me for no reason. I get your upset and the excuses lines are running thin. We're all Liverpool fans at the end of the day. All im saying his I dont care who he/she is they pointed out something we've all be blind-sighted by including myself. Theres a few things around what hes saying that are true and I think its linked to the "wishful thinking" around the club.

fazakerley red 1 #555222 26/01/17 06:34 PM
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No. You don't run this site and people can post what they want. It's for the organ grinder to sort out if it's out if order or not not you. Most of what you post is negative drivel but I don't tell you what to post.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
No. You don't run this site and people can post what they want. It's for the organ grinder to sort out if it's out if order or not not you. Most of what you post is negative drivel but I don't tell you what to post.



Its a forum about Liverpool and football, not about peoples persona. I never said what you can and cant post. I know your upset over the game and emotions are still high for you and the excuses are running lower and lower. Rather than talk about the game or the team you resort to childish BS like this all the time. All i said is, he posted a good thing which can be discussed from a positive and negative point of view and it was something not really brought up.

By the way, im just realistic. Im not a snowflake eternal optimist. Its hard to pull the blanket over my eyes and pretend everything is ok. You and some other people might want to look only on the first 20 games of this season but a premier league season is 38. My opinions may be drivel to you, but its actually a common feeling among Liverpool fans at this moment. I may exaggerate and go over the top on things but a lot of what I say is correct. Not everything but theres always a reason and foundation to what I say based on facts.

It shouldnt matter who posts what, as long as it brings up something new we should ALL talk about rather than concentrating on the person themselves posting it. Cheer up snowflake "next year is our year" yeah? Because we have klopp, the man who doesnt make mistakes and is immune to criticism.

fazakerley red 1 #555229 26/01/17 06:55 PM
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You know nothing about me or how I'm feeling so cut outvthevsmug bullshitte.

You were telling people how and what to post. It's not up to you what I or anyone posts on here, that's dunks job.

So just keep it to yourself and continue to wallow in your darkness.

And your negativity is not being a realist. It's just negativity. I noticed how you disappeared until we hit a bit of bad form. Shame you didn't feel lime being a realist then eh?

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