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Your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone knowing the chances of us not getting top 4 would be increased? Ill flip the coin for all the wishful thinkers as well, your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone that would decrease our chances of possibly winning the league? I put it in both cases for you.
Are you really that f*king deluded you think people just come on to have a go at FSG with no basis or foundation?
1 LC trophy, 1 champions league qualified for. Justify that?
Did they or did they not say we could compete with bigger teams? Can we? NO.
You can sit there and let this club fall like forest and other clubs like leeds and Villa. I think it would give you a good excuse to starting watchin the spl. I have never said I don't want Liverpool to sign anyone, I've said many times the squad needs improving but with the right players, not just anyone, you seem desperate for a signing regardless of ability, that's mad! I'm not a defender of FSG by any way shape or form either, I'm just realistic enough to know how football works and what Liverpool need to do to stay or become competitive. It's not all about money, look at Atletico Madrid!
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Your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone knowing the chances of us not getting top 4 would be increased? Ill flip the coin for all the wishful thinkers as well, your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone that would decrease our chances of possibly winning the league? I put it in both cases for you.
Are you really that f*king deluded you think people just come on to have a go at FSG with no basis or foundation?
1 LC trophy, 1 champions league qualified for. Justify that?
Did they or did they not say we could compete with bigger teams? Can we? NO.
You can sit there and let this club fall like forest and other clubs like leeds and Villa. I think it would give you a good excuse to starting watchin the spl. I have never said I don't want Liverpool to sign anyone, I've said many times the squad needs improving but with the right players, not just anyone, you seem desperate for a signing regardless of ability, that's mad! I'm not a defender of FSG by any way shape or form either, I'm just realistic enough to know how football works and what Liverpool need to do to stay or become competitive. It's not all about money, look at Atletico Madrid! Chris dont compare us to Athletico because they had the balls to sign world class players. Falcao was on everyones radar at porto and they signed him when he was already a superstar. They signed jackson martinez who was another player in that bracket but didnt work out for them. They still beat top teams to his name. They even have players like Muanin and Gamerio both of which were good players wanted by clubs and they signed them. We cannot do that. We have never done that under these current owners because theres too many terms and conditions when a player is signing for us. They sold their best players and consistently replaced them. We didnt. We have got to get these cowboys out if we want to be success.
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Your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone knowing the chances of us not getting top 4 would be increased? Ill flip the coin for all the wishful thinkers as well, your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone that would decrease our chances of possibly winning the league? I put it in both cases for you.
Are you really that f*king deluded you think people just come on to have a go at FSG with no basis or foundation?
1 LC trophy, 1 champions league qualified for. Justify that?
Did they or did they not say we could compete with bigger teams? Can we? NO.
You can sit there and let this club fall like forest and other clubs like leeds and Villa. I think it would give you a good excuse to starting watchin the spl. I have never said I don't want Liverpool to sign anyone, I've said many times the squad needs improving but with the right players, not just anyone, you seem desperate for a signing regardless of ability, that's mad! I'm not a defender of FSG by any way shape or form either, I'm just realistic enough to know how football works and what Liverpool need to do to stay or become competitive. It's not all about money, look at Atletico Madrid! Chris dont compare us to Athletico because they had the balls to sign world class players. Falcao was on everyones radar at porto and they signed him when he was already a superstar. They signed jackson martinez who was another player in that bracket but didnt work out for them. They still beat top teams to his name. They even have players like Muanin and Gamerio both of which were good players wanted by clubs and they signed them. We cannot do that. We have never done that under these current owners because theres too many terms and conditions when a player is signing for us. They sold their best players and consistently replaced them. We didnt. We have got to get these cowboys out if we want to be success. Atletico is a good example of finding good players and so is Dortmund. I thought Griezman would have been a good addition when Suarez left and we could have got him instead of Balotelli who was a bigger name then, nobody knew Costa when he went there. Aubameyang could have been signed one season before he left for Dortmund to replace Lewandowski. It is true though that some players just didn't fancy coming to LFC like Costa, Mikhtarian and Sanchez. We sold our best players and invested all the money + more, even more than Atletico, but bought the wrong players.
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Chris dont compare us to Athletico because they had the balls to sign world class players. Falcao was on everyones radar at porto and they signed him when he was already a superstar. They signed jackson martinez who was another player in that bracket but didnt work out for them. They still beat top teams to his name. They even have players like Muanin and Gamerio both of which were good players wanted by clubs and they signed them. We cannot do that. We have never done that under these current owners because theres too many terms and conditions when a player is signing for us.
They sold their best players and consistently replaced them. We didnt. We have got to get these cowboys out if we want to be success.
The Atletico Madrid blueprint is one we should be looking to copy or emulate. Against all odds they have managed to compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona, including winning La Liga and getting to two Champions League finals! This despite having no where near the same resources! They have consistently lost their best players but they sign the right players to replace them, they don't spend more money than we do, they simply sign better players. If you look at their strikers over the years they've lost Torres, Aguero, Forlan, Falcao and Costa, yet they always replace them. Gameiro is an interesting example, I'd have liked to have seen Liverpool in for him last season. As Vish has said its about signing the right players, we've spent an absolute fortune over the years but a lot of it has been invested in the wrong players. Griezmann for example could have been signed from Real Sociedad, he wouldn't have commanded huge wages at that time either. The problem for me is scouting and not finding these quality players early enough.
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The Atletico Madrid blueprint is one we should be looking to copy or emulate. Against all odds they have managed to compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona, including winning La Liga and getting to two Champions League finals! This despite having no where near the same resources!
They have consistently lost their best players but they sign the right players to replace them, they don't spend more money than we do, they simply sign better players. If you look at their strikers over the years they've lost Torres, Aguero, Forlan, Falcao and Costa, yet they always replace them.
Gameiro is an interesting example, I'd have liked to have seen Liverpool in for him last season.
As Vish has said its about signing the right players, we've spent an absolute fortune over the years but a lot of it has been invested in the wrong players. Griezmann for example could have been signed from Real Sociedad, he wouldn't have commanded huge wages at that time either. The problem for me is scouting and not finding these quality players early enough. [/quote]
Couldn't agree more!!!
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Your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone knowing the chances of us not getting top 4 would be increased? Ill flip the coin for all the wishful thinkers as well, your saying you would be happy if we didnt sign anyone that would decrease our chances of possibly winning the league? I put it in both cases for you.
Are you really that f*king deluded you think people just come on to have a go at FSG with no basis or foundation?
1 LC trophy, 1 champions league qualified for. Justify that?
Did they or did they not say we could compete with bigger teams? Can we? NO.
You can sit there and let this club fall like forest and other clubs like leeds and Villa. I think it would give you a good excuse to starting watchin the spl. I have never said I don't want Liverpool to sign anyone, I've said many times the squad needs improving but with the right players, not just anyone, you seem desperate for a signing regardless of ability, that's mad! I'm not a defender of FSG by any way shape or form either, I'm just realistic enough to know how football works and what Liverpool need to do to stay or become competitive. It's not all about money, look at Atletico Madrid! Chris dont compare us to Athletico because they had the balls to sign world class players. Falcao was on everyones radar at porto and they signed him when he was already a superstar. They signed jackson martinez who was another player in that bracket but didnt work out for them. They still beat top teams to his name. They even have players like Muanin and Gamerio both of which were good players wanted by clubs and they signed them. We cannot do that. We have never done that under these current owners because theres too many terms and conditions when a player is signing for us. They sold their best players and consistently replaced them. We didnt. We have got to get these cowboys out if we want to be success. Atletico is a good example of finding good players and so is Dortmund. I thought Griezman would have been a good addition when Suarez left and we could have got him instead of Balotelli who was a bigger name then, nobody knew Costa when he went there. Aubameyang could have been signed one season before he left for Dortmund to replace Lewandowski. It is true though that some players just didn't fancy coming to LFC like Costa, Mikhtarian and Sanchez. We sold our best players and invested all the money + more, even more than Atletico, but bought the wrong players. Wasn't Dani Alves on a plane to Liverpool, Rafa nearly bought him from Sevilla before he joined Barca, we also nearly bought Costa, sometimes it just doesn't work out, apparently Houllier wanted a very young Ronaldo but the club wouldn't pay so much for a teenager, Schmeichael wrote to Souness to join Liverpool but we had James, so we never progressed it, sometimes you need to take a risk, unfortunately we took risks on the likes of Markovic.
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Its like a scatter gun, teams like Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd have the money to take risks on 4 or 5 players, 1 or 2 will come off, the rest can be got rid of for big losses, players like Mangala/Jovetic/Sinclair/Rodwell.
We can't afford to do this and need to target players better, at least Klopps buys don't seem to be dud's so far, we can argue about players like Karius playing or not, but they are ok and not £20 million wasted like Markovic.
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