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Just sign someone, anyone, even re-sign Balotelli as long as this madness ends.
Apparently we are about to make an offer for this keeper. 
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Just sign someone, anyone, even re-sign Balotelli as long as this madness ends.
Balotelli wasn't necessarily a bad gamble at the time... as long as it was the manager's shout and he genuinely believed that he could get something out of him. The problem was, Rodgers wasn't ever quite straight about it. If he didn't want him he should have said 'no, I'd rather not sign anybody than sign Balotelli'. Just like Klopp seems to be saying now - i.e. he won't sign anyone just for ths sake of making a signing. After the event, yes it was a farce. Rodgers claimed he never wanted him in the first place. But then he should have vetoed the signing. He should've told them that if they sign Balotelli he'd resign... but the job was too big and financially rewarding for him to give up. that's my assesment.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Disecting what Klopp says about the right player being available leads to to the following understanding:
- Klopp has identified some players but they are not available
- Given that every player has a price, why are they not available?
- Either Klopp is not prepared to pay the asking price or FSG are not prepared to pay it
- What will change in the summer? Are they expecting prices to go down? i.e. that the clubs will release the players at an agreeable price. But all the other clubs will be shopping in the summer too so won't that cause a problem?
- If the players you want are not avaialble does it not mean you're shopping in the wrong market? Shouldn't you be looking for the best options from the ones that are available?
I hear every year that January is difficult and that the Summer window provides more options and more value. Then when summer comes, we can never secure our intended targets because they get better offers from elsewhere. One year we waited and waited.... and then at the very end they told us that Sakho was our marquee signing lol
I've always thought that when we can't compete directly with those with bigger pockets, we have to compete by being smarter. And one option is to use the Jan window really well. Suarez and Coutinho were both Jan signings.
Anyway, I've had my say on this subject... and Klopp has spoken. I will now just try to enjoy each game in isolataion one at a time and see where it leads us. The year when we signed Sakho late on as our only Marquee signing was the same year we ended up finishing 2nd. And part of the reason for that was probably because we had a settled squad. A lot of the new signings that year never really got game time and it was the players from the season before that were playing regularly and were the reason why we nearly won the title. Sometimes signing no one may be the better option.
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The whole situation makes no sense. We lose a few players and the side is no longer competitive. How could Klopp have thought the squad players were and are good enough to step up when needed when a blind dog can see they are not?
Or was he using his charisma to "lift" them to perform above their ability, just to get by?
The loyalty shown to "loyal servants" or "hard workers" who are simply not very good, has really backfired.
We would be close to top of the league if we had a decent squad bought another 3 decent players in the summer and there is no excuse for not doing so.
Speaking of which, Swansea's, Llorente, Sigurdsson, and Carrol and were very impressive against us and far better than our equivalents. Not good enough I am afraid.
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Under 23 Player
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Disecting what Klopp says about the right player being available leads to to the following understanding:
- Klopp has identified some players but they are not available
- Given that every player has a price, why are they not available?
- Either Klopp is not prepared to pay the asking price or FSG are not prepared to pay it
- What will change in the summer? Are they expecting prices to go down? i.e. that the clubs will release the players at an agreeable price. But all the other clubs will be shopping in the summer too so won't that cause a problem?
- If the players you want are not avaialble does it not mean you're shopping in the wrong market? Shouldn't you be looking for the best options from the ones that are available?
I hear every year that January is difficult and that the Summer window provides more options and more value. Then when summer comes, we can never secure our intended targets because they get better offers from elsewhere. One year we waited and waited.... and then at the very end they told us that Sakho was our marquee signing lol
I've always thought that when we can't compete directly with those with bigger pockets, we have to compete by being smarter. And one option is to use the Jan window really well. Suarez and Coutinho were both Jan signings.
Anyway, I've had my say on this subject... and Klopp has spoken. I will now just try to enjoy each game in isolataion one at a time and see where it leads us. The year when we signed Sakho late on as our only Marquee signing was the same year we ended up finishing 2nd. And part of the reason for that was probably because we had a settled squad. A lot of the new signings that year never really got game time and it was the players from the season before that were playing regularly and were the reason why we nearly won the title. Sometimes signing no one may be the better option. An alternative view is that the reason we nearly won the title was Luis Suarez. And the reason we didn't win it was that we didn't invest in better defensive players, including the keeper, something wbich cost us vital points.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Under 23 Player
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The whole situation makes no sense. We lose a few players and the side is no longer competitive. How could Klopp have thought the squad players were and are good enough to step up when needed when a blind dog can see they are not?
Or was he using his charisma to "lift" them to perform above their ability, just to get by?
The loyalty shown to "loyal servants" or "hard workers" who are simply not very good, has really backfired.
We would be close to top of the league if we had a decent squad bought another 3 decent players in the summer and there is no excuse for not doing so.
Speaking of which, Swansea's, Llorente, Sigurdsson, and Carrol and were very impressive against us and far better than our equivalents. Not good enough I am afraid. He doesn't that's why. He obviously has a plan and he is thinking long term and he does not want to waste money and look for bargains which sits well with FSG. What I do know is that he is taking a huge risk and I am sure he knows it as well.
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Speaking of which, Swansea's, Llorente, Sigurdsson, and Carrol and were very impressive against us and far better than our equivalents. Not good enough I am afraid. And what have these players been doing all season? Or should we sign every player after one good game? You would be spitting feathers about FSG being cheap if we had signed any of them!
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Under 23 Player
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Disecting what Klopp says about the right player being available leads to to the following understanding:
- Klopp has identified some players but they are not available
- Given that every player has a price, why are they not available?
- Either Klopp is not prepared to pay the asking price or FSG are not prepared to pay it
- What will change in the summer? Are they expecting prices to go down? i.e. that the clubs will release the players at an agreeable price. But all the other clubs will be shopping in the summer too so won't that cause a problem?
- If the players you want are not avaialble does it not mean you're shopping in the wrong market? Shouldn't you be looking for the best options from the ones that are available?
I hear every year that January is difficult and that the Summer window provides more options and more value. Then when summer comes, we can never secure our intended targets because they get better offers from elsewhere. One year we waited and waited.... and then at the very end they told us that Sakho was our marquee signing lol
I've always thought that when we can't compete directly with those with bigger pockets, we have to compete by being smarter. And one option is to use the Jan window really well. Suarez and Coutinho were both Jan signings.
Anyway, I've had my say on this subject... and Klopp has spoken. I will now just try to enjoy each game in isolataion one at a time and see where it leads us. The year when we signed Sakho late on as our only Marquee signing was the same year we ended up finishing 2nd. And part of the reason for that was probably because we had a settled squad. A lot of the new signings that year never really got game time and it was the players from the season before that were playing regularly and were the reason why we nearly won the title. Sometimes signing no one may be the better option. An alternative view is that the reason we nearly won the title was Luis Suarez. And the reason we didn't win it was that we didn't invest in better defensive players, including the keeper, something wbich cost us vital points. Yes I agree with the Suarez part. But I think the reason Suarez did so well is that built a system around him to get the best out of him. The focus was on getting the best out of settled players rather than experimenting with new players.
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Speaking of which, Swansea's, Llorente, Sigurdsson, and Carrol and were very impressive against us and far better than our equivalents. Not good enough I am afraid. And what have these players been doing all season? Or should we sign every player after one good game? You would be spitting feathers about FSG being cheap if we had signed any of them! Exactly. I love it when people come on and say we should've bought x, y or z when they've had a good game against us. Not one of those players are good enough for us.
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Sigurdson would walk in ahead of Lucas and Wijnaldum. Hes not as good defending as Hendo but better going forward.
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