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I don't understand how some of the fanbase and media can target every position in a club and feel like it is new information that there are better players somewhere else, and that therefore they must be targeted and signed.
It is like people forget that every year, world-class players don't win the league, don't win a trophy, fail to live up to expectations and therefore fail to represent the value that they were signed for. Pogba and Zlatan? Sanchez and Ozil? Lloris and Alderweireld? There is a huge list of top talent in the league that will fail to achieve something this season that cost a lot, salary-wise in all cases.
Now, do not get me wrong, I would love Klopp to go out and sign a couple of incredible players. That is not because we desperately need them now, but because I think if Klopp picks them, he is highly likely to get the best out of them. But there has to be an acceptance that sometimes, the best players aren't enough.
The Galactico's at Madrid had many failings. They had some of the best of the sport's coaches, managers and training facilities and struggled to achieve what they wanted. So when it comes to Liverpool, is it necessary to have a £40m net spend every year to get where we want to? Or is it better to just sign the right players when / if we can.
Matip and Klavan have made big contributions at the back. Combined, they cost less than £5m. They earn about £125k a week between them. Under our old manager, Lucas and Sakho, combined, cost over £25m and earn, currently, more than £150k a week. Who represents value?
I'm thoroughly looking forward to how our squad develops... I just don't feel that we need to just buy the top players. In Klopp, we have a manager proven to pick talent at a variation of prices. Time to trust him, not the market...
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I don't understand how some of the fanbase and media can target every position in a club and feel like it is new information that there are better players somewhere else, and that therefore they must be targeted and signed.
It is like people forget that every year, world-class players don't win the league, don't win a trophy, fail to live up to expectations and therefore fail to represent the value that they were signed for. Pogba and Zlatan? Sanchez and Ozil? Lloris and Alderweireld? There is a huge list of top talent in the league that will fail to achieve something this season that cost a lot, salary-wise in all cases.
Now, do not get me wrong, I would love Klopp to go out and sign a couple of incredible players. That is not because we desperately need them now, but because I think if Klopp picks them, he is highly likely to get the best out of them. But there has to be an acceptance that sometimes, the best players aren't enough.
The Galactico's at Madrid had many failings. They had some of the best of the sport's coaches, managers and training facilities and struggled to achieve what they wanted. So when it comes to Liverpool, is it necessary to have a £40m net spend every year to get where we want to? Or is it better to just sign the right players when / if we can.
Matip and Klavan have made big contributions at the back. Combined, they cost less than £5m. They earn about £125k a week between them. Under our old manager, Lucas and Sakho, combined, cost over £25m and earn, currently, more than £150k a week. Who represents value?
I'm thoroughly looking forward to how our squad develops... I just don't feel that we need to just buy the top players. In Klopp, we have a manager proven to pick talent at a variation of prices. Time to trust him, not the market...
Ask G. On a serious note, everybody wants the best especially if it doesn't come out of their pockets. People are complaining about rising subscription fees but also want top players on huge wages and transfer fees.. Chances are that with the best players your odds to win trophies are bigger, it is the same with managers, I am sure we can get Big Sam on a cheaper wage, but who would go for him instead of Klopp?
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We obviously don't have the money of city, chelsea and utd. But as Klopp has shown there is value there and we don't have to always pay huge fees to get want is needed. But that is no reason why we should not be splashing 40-50m on a player that would really improve the team. Mane was a good example in the summer that Klopp had to have him and paid the money
But I get what you are saying. It is boring to read the we need to sign xyz player from the fifa experts
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I don't understand how some of the fanbase and media can target every position in a club and feel like it is new information that there are better players somewhere else, and that therefore they must be targeted and signed.
It is like people forget that every year, world-class players don't win the league, don't win a trophy, fail to live up to expectations and therefore fail to represent the value that they were signed for. Pogba and Zlatan? Sanchez and Ozil? Lloris and Alderweireld? There is a huge list of top talent in the league that will fail to achieve something this season that cost a lot, salary-wise in all cases.
Now, do not get me wrong, I would love Klopp to go out and sign a couple of incredible players. That is not because we desperately need them now, but because I think if Klopp picks them, he is highly likely to get the best out of them. But there has to be an acceptance that sometimes, the best players aren't enough.
The Galactico's at Madrid had many failings. They had some of the best of the sport's coaches, managers and training facilities and struggled to achieve what they wanted. So when it comes to Liverpool, is it necessary to have a £40m net spend every year to get where we want to? Or is it better to just sign the right players when / if we can.
Matip and Klavan have made big contributions at the back. Combined, they cost less than £5m. They earn about £125k a week between them. Under our old manager, Lucas and Sakho, combined, cost over £25m and earn, currently, more than £150k a week. Who represents value?
I'm thoroughly looking forward to how our squad develops... I just don't feel that we need to just buy the top players. In Klopp, we have a manager proven to pick talent at a variation of prices. Time to trust him, not the market...
Excellent post sir. I think we have a manager who would rather build a team than buy one.
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I don't understand how some of the fanbase and media can target every position in a club and feel like it is new information that there are better players somewhere else, and that therefore they must be targeted and signed.
It is like people forget that every year, world-class players don't win the league, don't win a trophy, fail to live up to expectations and therefore fail to represent the value that they were signed for. Pogba and Zlatan? Sanchez and Ozil? Lloris and Alderweireld? There is a huge list of top talent in the league that will fail to achieve something this season that cost a lot, salary-wise in all cases.
Now, do not get me wrong, I would love Klopp to go out and sign a couple of incredible players. That is not because we desperately need them now, but because I think if Klopp picks them, he is highly likely to get the best out of them. But there has to be an acceptance that sometimes, the best players aren't enough.
The Galactico's at Madrid had many failings. They had some of the best of the sport's coaches, managers and training facilities and struggled to achieve what they wanted. So when it comes to Liverpool, is it necessary to have a £40m net spend every year to get where we want to? Or is it better to just sign the right players when / if we can.
Matip and Klavan have made big contributions at the back. Combined, they cost less than £5m. They earn about £125k a week between them. Under our old manager, Lucas and Sakho, combined, cost over £25m and earn, currently, more than £150k a week. Who represents value?
I'm thoroughly looking forward to how our squad develops... I just don't feel that we need to just buy the top players. In Klopp, we have a manager proven to pick talent at a variation of prices. Time to trust him, not the market...
Excellent post sir. I think we have a manager who would rather build a team than buy one. Oh,gnp won't be happy with that
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Great article be caragher in the mail yesterday Liverpool have only one star player countinho and our net spend under Klopp is £7m. It's the team that matters and getting the best out of players not becoming the Harlem globe trotters
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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A great team will always out do a great bunch of individuals. But if we could add a 'world class' p[layer that fits the team then great.
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Great article be caragher in the mail yesterday Liverpool have only one star player countinho and our net spend under Klopp is £7m. It's the team that matters and getting the best out of players not becoming the Harlem globe trotters Spot on Stan. The fact that we lost Coutinho but have still managed to score freely shows that we are not a one man band. We have goals right through the team and it's clear that the players are buying into the team ethos. The improvement in Lallana has been exceptional, Milner has been excellent at left back and Matip has been a revelation and looks like becoming the commanding centre back we have lacked since the days of big Sami. Klopp defended Karius, but he was also quick to replace him when he failed to perform. Sakho learnt in no uncertain terms that you do not cross Klopp. Jurgen Klopp will be our biggest signing of the last 20 years before he is finished.
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Madrid won nothing with the original galacticos. Barca promoted from the youth team and atletico bought hard workers.
A player can win a game but a team wins the league
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I don't understand how some of the fanbase and media can target every position in a club and feel like it is new information that there are better players somewhere else, and that therefore they must be targeted and signed.
It is like people forget that every year, world-class players don't win the league, don't win a trophy, fail to live up to expectations and therefore fail to represent the value that they were signed for. Pogba and Zlatan? Sanchez and Ozil? Lloris and Alderweireld? There is a huge list of top talent in the league that will fail to achieve something this season that cost a lot, salary-wise in all cases.
Now, do not get me wrong, I would love Klopp to go out and sign a couple of incredible players. That is not because we desperately need them now, but because I think if Klopp picks them, he is highly likely to get the best out of them. But there has to be an acceptance that sometimes, the best players aren't enough.
The Galactico's at Madrid had many failings. They had some of the best of the sport's coaches, managers and training facilities and struggled to achieve what they wanted. So when it comes to Liverpool, is it necessary to have a £40m net spend every year to get where we want to? Or is it better to just sign the right players when / if we can.
Matip and Klavan have made big contributions at the back. Combined, they cost less than £5m. They earn about £125k a week between them. Under our old manager, Lucas and Sakho, combined, cost over £25m and earn, currently, more than £150k a week. Who represents value?
I'm thoroughly looking forward to how our squad develops... I just don't feel that we need to just buy the top players. In Klopp, we have a manager proven to pick talent at a variation of prices. Time to trust him, not the market...
I think this ties in with the 'Why?' thread. It's the over the top media hype that so many fans buy into and then are disappointed or actually outraged when a deal that was never on the table doesn't happen.
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