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Doesn't Koeman just strike you as a manager there on the step ladder on his way up, he's made a few comments about Lukaku going to a bigger & better club etc, he doesn't seem committed long term to me, If I was an Everton fan I would not be happy with his approach/persona, maybe he is disillusioned with what he has, compared to what he was sold/promised to leave Southampton?

think Everton are a stepping stone for Koeman especially if he does well however I see Liverpool as being a stepping stone with Klopp if he continues to improve too. I think unfortunately it's a vicious circle with players and managers with clubs like ours in that midlish table area if we produce anybody good bigger more powerful clubs will just take them so building anything is virtually impossible...

I expected the toffs to win that game if I am honest, Everton this season was all about rebuilding in my opinion, I think they were always going to finish between 6th and about 9th last nights result won't change that. I think they were a bit unfortunate in that this new owner and Ronald Koeman came in a bit late for the summer transfer window so next season will be a better time to judge them when Koeman has his own players in, got them playing his way and they are more settles also when this foreign investor has splashed more of his cash. I think we should hold fire in having a go at the toffs for the simple facts the three favourite teams in the league to be relegated at the start of the season Hull City, Burnley and Bournemouth we have already lost to two of them already so let's not get too carried away. I fully expect the battle for places 5th to 8th to be really competitive next season with Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Southampton, West Ham, Stoke and West Brom all in the mix...just my opinion...

think Everton are a stepping stone for Koeman especially if he does well however I see Liverpool as being a stepping stone with Klopp if he continues to improve too. I think unfortunately it's a vicious circle with players and managers with clubs like ours in that midlish table area if we produce anybody good bigger more powerful clubs will just take them so building anything is virtually impossible...

Am sure he does genuinely feel enormous affection for the club and would not be tempted by offers to lure him away to ALMOST ALL of the big,big clubs; the exception unfortunately being Bayern, who are most likely to come for him at some time, prob the summer after next.
He still has things to settle in his homeland, particularly with some of the media. Have to remember that in his last season at BVB he had the second best team on paper and they were languishing just above the relegation zone for most of the season until a decent run took them up to a 6th or 7th place finish.This is when clubs such as Arsenal who were monitoring him thought that he may not be a safe pair of hands that after all.

Am sure he does genuinely feel enormous affection for the club and would not be tempted by offers to lure him away to ALMOST ALL of the big,big clubs; the exception unfortunately being Bayern, who are most likely to come for him at some time, prob the summer after next.
He still has things to settle in his homeland, particularly with some of the media. Have to remember that in his last season at BVB he had the second best team on paper and they were languishing just above the relegation zone for most of the season until a decent run took them up to a 6th or 7th place finish.This is when clubs such as Arsenal who were monitoring him thought that he may not be a safe pair of hands that after all.