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I am the person with the the strong OOT views just so people know, I would love to be able to open a thread and discuss my concerns from reasons for thinking what I do down to the threat it now poses at grass roots level. I won't be posting my views on here as this topic has unfortunately become taboo and I will continue to stay within forum rules and abide by Dunks wishes...

have to disagree with you there my friend,

PLEASE, as I've very politely requested many many times now, STOP calling me 'friend'...or 'mate

If you were, then that's fine, but I'm not, so please cut it out.
I know you're only doing it to wind me up, but enough is REALLY enough now, thank you.

For goodness sake!

NO NO NO!
You fire away. It's YOUR opinion, to which you've told us many times is what makes for a healthy lively debate...apparently, so you keep telling us numbskulls.

There is no discussion to have because without OOT fans the club would be grounded down the leagues somewhere. I see the local fan base as the soul of the club and the OOT fans are the heart of the club. The club needs both.

The only thing that effects grass roots is the money in the game because the bigger clubs spend money on ready products. That has nothing to do with OOT fans.

I think he's asked you not to refer him as that. That's his shout and you should respect it.

The heart and soul line there Dunk sums it up perfectly imo.

Who gets upset about where someone comes from? How ****ed up is that.

It's not an OOTs fault if you're that poor that you can't afford a match ticket. It's about priorities.

At the end of the day, a fan will always put him/herself first over another fan if they can get a ticket. Nothing to do with geography.

yes I understand your points about locals and soul and I also believe OOT fans add something to a world wide fanbase there are some dedicated follows I have the utmost respect for and realise the time and effort they put in...my point is that we are at the stage now where fans in football places like Coventry, Huddersfield and Nottingham are now turning there backs on there home town clubs because they are not very good and are adopting glamour clubs like City and Chelsea, those home town clubs are going into financial trouble because of this, this surely can't be right.
I will tell you a quick story which happend a few years ago to illustrate my point, I was on a stag weekend in Nottingham, the Saturday afternoon we were in the Wetherspoons having a hair of the dog after the Friday night drinking there was two televisions in the room, one had Nottingham Forest playing Leeds United and the the other television had United playing Everton, there was about 6 people watching Forest and about 40 watching United and they were cheering Uniteds goals going in, these were people from the city of Nottingham not Manchester. Now Nottingham is a footballing and sports mad city to rival Liverpool something ain't right if footballing fans are turning there back on a city that boasts two wonderful historical football clubs in favour of richer, more successful glamourous clubs from other City's.
This is my fear for grass roots Clubs and part of my reasons for questioning OOT fans I am backing my view point up and trying to provide a valid reason I am not deliberately trying to upset anybody.
I will not repeat my OOT views on here and will stay within the forum rules...

That's because the game has been overhyped by Sky. Younger fans are sucked in. It's not new. That's why games haven't been shown live on TV on Saturdays at 3pm for decades.

I'm an out of towner and I supported Liverpool because I didn't have a local team. But we didn't have Sky Sports and the internet. I had no idea where Liverpool was. As an adult today, I would never have supported Liverpool. I would have supported the very nearest club.

What you have to understand is that the majority of OOTs don't have a local side.

And at the end of the day, it is up to each individual as to who they should support.

I agree with what you're saying to an extent but that's society.

I always buy from my local butchers, at a higher price than a supermarket, to support my community but not everyone thinks like that.