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You disagree for the sake of it.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
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Listen, I'm not Spangles and I will write to Dunc if he thinks I am which I doubt he does.


I never said you were?


I am not spangles and neither is my wife


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Am Spangles....anybody impersonating me is just a cheap copy haha...

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Originally Posted By chesterville
Currently the biggest difference is that we have Jurgen Klopp. And for this season and next season that gives us a huge advantage. However, if FSG don't support him with money for top players it will difficult for him to achieve sustained success and he would most likely leave for Bayern or Barca. Then we would really be a club living on past memories.


Klopp didn't sign 'proven top' players when he was at Dortmund and he was extremely successful there.

A key component of a managers job is to coach the players he has, make them better and find players who fit the system we play. Klopp has done that this season without signing a so called 'top' player.

I'd sooner trust the manager buying the players he wants for his system rather than a so called big name just to appease a small number of fans.

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Unfortunately I think that method can only really work in Germany, where he had to get past one super club here in jolly old England he has to equal if not better three super clubs and another who might not be quire a super club but one history has shown finishes ahead of us for nearly 20 years now. I think for Klopp to make that method work is the same one Howard Kendal adopted back in 1985 which in fairness did work but he was just chasing one super club in Liverpool in those days. I think another thing which will go against Klopp is that it will take about 3 seasons to assemble a championship winning team if that method worked but during that time the bigger clubs would always take any good players we would develop so building a team would be virtually impossible...

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Originally Posted By Spangles7
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Didn't they qualify 4thin 2005. They got knocked out in the qualifiers. Thinks that's the only time since the period of the Heysel ban.

Roughly as many times as Leicester.
yes that's correct they qualified the season Liverpool won in Istanbul, since then they haven't qualified, I think there's is no qualification for the champions League and no appearances in 12 years where I think we are on 1 appearance in about 6 or 7 years. I would definitely say Everton, Spurs and Liverpool are all on the same footing in that the aims are all the same which is just to appear in the champions League, none of these clubs have serious ambitions to win Leagues or champions leagues unlike say City, United and Chelsea, would even say Arsenal try to win these trophies but always fall short but they certainly set out at the start of each season to win one unlike Liverpool, Spurs and Everton who have a totally different mindset and ambition...


So they achieved their target once in 20 years...but for a Bluenose it's a great achievement I agree...hahaha. Their target is the odd cup, same as yours, is that a coincidence, I don't think so Mr Bitter.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Didn't they qualify 4thin 2005. They got knocked out in the qualifiers. Thinks that's the only time since the period of the Heysel ban.

Roughly as many times as Leicester.
yes that's correct they qualified the season Liverpool won in Istanbul, since then they haven't qualified, I think there's is no qualification for the champions League and no appearances in 12 years where I think we are on 1 appearance in about 6 or 7 years. I would definitely say Everton, Spurs and Liverpool are all on the same footing in that the aims are all the same which is just to appear in the champions League, none of these clubs have serious ambitions to win Leagues or champions leagues unlike say City, United and Chelsea, would even say Arsenal try to win these trophies but always fall short but they certainly set out at the start of each season to win one unlike Liverpool, Spurs and Everton who have a totally different mindset and ambition...


So they achieved their target once in 20 years...but for a Bluenose it's a great achievement I agree...hahaha. Their target is the odd cup, same as yours, is that a coincidence, I don't think so Mr Bitter.
listen it may be hard for you but please refrain from name calling, things have settled down a bit in here last few days and we don't want any idiots kicking it all off again.
The point I am making is we need to set realistic targets instead of setting targets from a Club from 30 years ago of a club we no longer are....

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Didn't they qualify 4thin 2005. They got knocked out in the qualifiers. Thinks that's the only time since the period of the Heysel ban.

Roughly as many times as Leicester.
yes that's correct they qualified the season Liverpool won in Istanbul, since then they haven't qualified, I think there's is no qualification for the champions League and no appearances in 12 years where I think we are on 1 appearance in about 6 or 7 years. I would definitely say Everton, Spurs and Liverpool are all on the same footing in that the aims are all the same which is just to appear in the champions League, none of these clubs have serious ambitions to win Leagues or champions leagues unlike say City, United and Chelsea, would even say Arsenal try to win these trophies but always fall short but they certainly set out at the start of each season to win one unlike Liverpool, Spurs and Everton who have a totally different mindset and ambition...


So they achieved their target once in 20 years...but for a Bluenose it's a great achievement I agree...hahaha. Their target is the odd cup, same as yours, is that a coincidence, I don't think so Mr Bitter.
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Originally Posted By Spangles7
listen it may be hard for you but please refrain from name calling, things have settled down a bit in here last few days and we don't want any idiots kicking it all off again.
The point I am making is we need to set realistic targets instead of setting targets from a Club from 30 years ago of a club we no longer are....


Name calling, what name calling, you are a Bluenose also called Bitters, everybody knows it here, Dunk has no problems with this, but I will call you what you are. Europa league and Champions League are completely different targets by the way and that doesn't have anything to do with what happened 30 years back.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Spangles7
listen it may be hard for you but please refrain from name calling, things have settled down a bit in here last few days and we don't want any idiots kicking it all off again.
The point I am making is we need to set realistic targets instead of setting targets from a Club from 30 years ago of a club we no longer are....


Name calling, what name calling, you are a Bluenose also called Bitters, everybody knows it here, Dunk has no problems with this, but I will call you what you are. Europa league and Champions League are completely different targets by the way and that doesn't have anything to do with what happened 30 years back.
thats ok I have more respect for my bluenose mates from the city than the likes of the D.C fans like your good self so go ahead carry on.
Everton target getting into the champions league each season just like Liverpool and Spurs do....

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