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#550477 15/12/16 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Spangles7
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.
yes that's exactly what he's saying he thinks players no matter how incompetent in there jobs should remain in the team in case they get better and improve...basically using first team games as practising, years ago he would be stuck in the reserves until he reached the required standard and if he never he was shipped out. His values despite being very admirable have no place in the modern game as it's sink or swim, he's not young, he gets paid a kings ransom and the manager has to be held accountable for bringing him in after he had supposedly done his homework on him... that's how it works....


I don't think you have the faintest idea of what he is saying, as on most things discussed by the way

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.


I'm unhappy at the way he's been treated by so called supporters and the media. It's been blown way out of proportion. Ultimately he did the right thing so not unhappy he was dropped but it's why he had to do it that also gets my back up.


I don't think he did it because of anybody but only because he thought it was the right thing to do

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
I don't think you're getting the point here. All the blame for those 2 games has been directed at Karius. The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth. Yes, Milner couldn't cope with Fraser but I think you're the only one to highlight this - everyone has just attacked Karius for that result.


Most people are too simplistic in their analysis like, let's just buy a,b,c..x,y,z and we are sorted. You shouldn't expect anything else on such a forum...


I was just backing up what I believe to be Wilks point.


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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
I don't think you're getting the point here. All the blame for those 2 games has been directed at Karius. The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth. Yes, Milner couldn't cope with Fraser but I think you're the only one to highlight this - everyone has just attacked Karius for that result.


It's the same for the West Ham game too. No mention of the wall not doing it's job or Matip getting caught under the ball (all be it from a deflection). It's all Karius' fault.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.


I'm unhappy at the way he's been treated by so called supporters and the media. It's been blown way out of proportion. Ultimately he did the right thing so not unhappy he was dropped but it's why he had to do it that also gets my back up.


I don't think he did it because of anybody but only because he thought it was the right thing to do


No me either. But had there not been such an out cry, then the pressure wouldn't have been so high on Karius.

Still it's done now until Flappy drops a clanger and no doubt there'll be bring back Karius threads then.

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Karius fault for Brexit and he's been blamed for trump being president ....

When migs fvcks up again and he will soon....

Wat is klopp's plan C

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Originally Posted By gnp-uk
Karius fault for Brexit and he's been blamed for trump being president ....

When migs fvcks up again and he will soon....

Wat is klopp's plan C


You should know, you would propose a new name, won't you?

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Originally Posted By gnp-uk
Karius fault for Brexit and he's been blamed for trump being president ....

When migs fvcks up again and he will soon....

Wat is klopp's plan C


It'll be interesting to see what the media's reaction to Migs cocking up will be too.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
I don't think you're getting the point here. All the blame for those 2 games has been directed at Karius. The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth. Yes, Milner couldn't cope with Fraser but I think you're the only one to highlight this - everyone has just attacked Karius for that result.


It's the same for the West Ham game too. No mention of the wall not doing it's job or Matip getting caught under the ball (all be it from a deflection). It's all Karius' fault.


The ball went over the wall and jumping is not something I fancy, as some cheeky players will shoot on the ground. I would say over the wall in the corner is a good strike with credit going to the striker, however, over the wall but not in the corner is poor goalkeeping. The second goal was an unlucky one as it got deflected by Hendo's head.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By gnp-uk
Karius fault for Brexit and he's been blamed for trump being president ....

When migs fvcks up again and he will soon....

Wat is klopp's plan C


It'll be interesting to see what the media's reaction to Migs cocking up will be too.


The headlines would be, Klopp wasted money on Karius as he should have bought a better replacement. Critics never lose as it is the easiest thing to do, but everybody talks about it which the media loves

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