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Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.

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The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth yet it seems Karius was the only one questioned - smacks of a hidden agenda, no?


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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.

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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth yet it seems Karius was the only one questioned - smacks of a hidden agenda, no?


Against Bornemouth there were 2 things that happened IMO, Milner couldn't deal with Fraser and the mistake of Karius leading to their 4th goal. I would even say that Klopp didn't react to the Fraser problem which ended up with us losing a game we had total control on.

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth yet it seems Karius was the only one questioned - smacks of a hidden agenda, no?


Against Bornemouth there were 2 things that happened IMO, Milner couldn't deal with Fraser and the mistake of Karius leading to their 4th goal. I would even say that Klopp didn't react to the Fraser problem which ended up with us losing a game we had total control on.


Wheres the thread to drop Milner at? Please link me.


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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth yet it seems Karius was the only one questioned - smacks of a hidden agenda, no?


Against Bornemouth there were 2 things that happened IMO, Milner couldn't deal with Fraser and the mistake of Karius leading to their 4th goal. I would even say that Klopp didn't react to the Fraser problem which ended up with us losing a game we had total control on.


Wheres the thread to drop Milner at? Please link me.


No not drop Milner, but reinforce out LB to cope with Fraser. I have said it in a thread, you probably missed it.

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I don't think you're getting the point here. All the blame for those 2 games has been directed at Karius. The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth. Yes, Milner couldn't cope with Fraser but I think you're the only one to highlight this - everyone has just attacked Karius for that result.


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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.
yes that's exactly what he's saying he thinks players no matter how incompetent in there jobs should remain in the team in case they get better and improve...basically using first team games as practising, years ago he would be stuck in the reserves until he reached the required standard and if he never he was shipped out. His values despite being very admirable have no place in the modern game as it's sink or swim, he's not young, he gets paid a kings ransom and the manager has to be held accountable for bringing him in after he had supposedly done his homework on him... that's how it works....

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Originally Posted By ReclaimThePub
I don't think you're getting the point here. All the blame for those 2 games has been directed at Karius. The whole team collapsed against Bournemouth. Yes, Milner couldn't cope with Fraser but I think you're the only one to highlight this - everyone has just attacked Karius for that result.


Most people are too simplistic in their analysis like, let's just buy a,b,c..x,y,z and we are sorted. You shouldn't expect anything else on such a forum...

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Why can we supporters not be good humans? Just because you want to act like a cvnt towards players doesn't mean we all have to.

Klopp is the man who needs to make the hard decisions which he did but going by his comments he knows how good Karius could be so unlike the rest of you will not be writing him off just yet.

And for the record, I think Klopp has handled it well. Shame most of you so called supporters haven't.


I agree that Klopp has handled it well as he has two keepers to compete for the job. You seem to be unhappy that Karius was dropped, are you saying he should have been kept despite his mistakes? I am not sure to understand your point.


I'm unhappy at the way he's been treated by so called supporters and the media. It's been blown way out of proportion. Ultimately he did the right thing so not unhappy he was dropped but it's why he had to do it that also gets my back up.

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