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I think I have said before the best method on these things is to look at the way football has worked. When I first started watching the Clubs called the shots and players were lucky to play for there clubs, it's the other way around now with players calling the shots and Clubs lucky to employ players. There is no way Shanks, Paisley and Jock Stein etc would of put up with players dictating to clubs like the modern ones do today, This brings me on to my point players and managers are different now, players move clubs for the good of there careers and financial benefit and managers treat Clubs like that too. A manager and player will always monoevere his career to play or manage one of the super clubs if he is good enough managers who what I would call in the second tier with massive potential but not achieved real success yet like Diego Simeone, Klopp, Koeman and Pochettino look set for good things and if they continue to improve will aim for a super club like City, Chelsea, United, Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca but they will all have to move Clubs to achieve greatness. Similar with players, they want to end up at one of the super clubs too if they manage to keep improving and progressing, I think people who don't believe this is how football works is being quite nieve or won't admit it, there odd exceptions but far and few between especially when managers and players don't have any real connection or ties with the club...

We always sold our best players who wanted to leave, nothing new under FSG, the examples I remember are Keagan, Rush, Owen, Mc Manaman. And which constrains are you talking about, they we always at the club, in fact, our most expensive purchases were under FSG. We do not need to have a huge squad while we are out of Europe with top players warming the bench, look at Sturridge, do you think he is happy not playing regularly? Do you think we should have bought Pogba for the money which Manure paid? Klopp had money to spend but decided not to, he knows what he is doing. You seem to moan just for the sake of it.

I think I have said before the best method on these things is to look at the way football has worked. When I first started watching the Clubs called the shots and players were lucky to play for there clubs, it's the other way around now with players calling the shots and Clubs lucky to employ players. There is no way Shanks, Paisley and Jock Stein etc would of put up with players dictating to clubs like the modern ones do today, This brings me on to my point players and managers are different now, players move clubs for the good of there careers and financial benefit and managers treat Clubs like that too. A manager and player will always monoevere his career to play or manage one of the super clubs if he is good enough managers who what I would call in the second tier with massive potential but not achieved real success yet like Diego Simeone, Klopp, Koeman and Pochettino look set for good things and if they continue to improve will aim for a super club like City, Chelsea, United, Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca but they will all have to move Clubs to achieve greatness. Similar with players, they want to end up at one of the super clubs too if they manage to keep improving and progressing, I think people who don't believe this is how football works is being quite nieve or won't admit it, there odd exceptions but far and few between especially when managers and players don't have any real connection or ties with the club...

Yes I agree, Klopp is obviously a very good manager and will get the best out of whatever he has available, and that should see us challenging in this season without midweek competition. However imo he'll need a stronger squad and less problems in defence if we play in Europe next season.
As for maximising our full potential, I agree we can't do that under FSG constraints, including their propensity for selling off their best performers. We're more likely to be consistent catch up strugglers than consummate top dogs, unfortunately.

We are not a club the very top players want to come to nor are we in the market for them that's pretty obvious I don't have a problem with it, it's been clear for some time Liverpool football clubs ambitions are limited to FSG,s investment plan which is minimum not optimum