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Sturridge struggled because of Klopp's system. Mane struggled as well, Firmino a bit too. If you can't get the ball to our dangerous players near Utd's goal we're unlikely to pose a threat and yesterday for the most part we didn't pose a threat to Utd.
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It wasn't a terrible game, we had some really good spells. United did very well in the first half to stop us playing. Anytime we'd string 3 or 4 passes together they'd foul and break our momentum. They were also quicker to loose balls and their passing was better.
We haven't faced that type of opposition so far....lessons learned hopefully. agree the talk that mourinho didn't know his best team before the game, surely now he does, maybe Mkhitaryan comes in on the right, or mata. because it was 0-0 we haven't faced that type of compact opposition before? man utd are a physical side like chelsea as I said before. and they were superior aerially like spurs winning 29 aerial duels to our 8. maybe man utd's passing was better overall (less risky) however statistically our passing success was 81% to josé 76%.
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It wasn't a terrible game, we had some really good spells. United did very well in the first half to stop us playing. Anytime we'd string 3 or 4 passes together they'd foul and break our momentum. They were also quicker to loose balls and their passing was better.
We haven't faced that type of opposition so far....lessons learned hopefully. agree the talk that mourinho didn't know his best team before the game, surely now he does, maybe Mkhitaryan comes in on the right, or mata. because it was 0-0 we haven't faced that type of compact opposition before? man utd are a physical side like chelsea as I said before. and they were superior aerially like spurs winning 29 aerial duels to our 8. maybe man utd's passing was better overall (less risky) however statistically our passing success was 81% to josé 76%. I don't think that game will have shown his best team, though? Sure they were defensively sound for the most part, controlled the middle far better than us for the majority of the game but didn't create many chances. He came for the draw, most teams they play against he won't set up the same way? That system will not suit Pogba at all in the position he played.
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It wasn't a terrible game, we had some really good spells. United did very well in the first half to stop us playing. Anytime we'd string 3 or 4 passes together they'd foul and break our momentum. They were also quicker to loose balls and their passing was better.
We haven't faced that type of opposition so far....lessons learned hopefully. agree the talk that mourinho didn't know his best team before the game, surely now he does, maybe Mkhitaryan comes in on the right, or mata. because it was 0-0 we haven't faced that type of compact opposition before? man utd are a physical side like chelsea as I said before. and they were superior aerially like spurs winning 29 aerial duels to our 8. maybe man utd's passing was better overall (less risky) however statistically our passing success was 81% to josé 76%. I don't think that game will have shown his best team, though? Sure they were defensively sound for the most part, controlled the middle far better than us for the majority of the game but didn't create many chances. He came for the draw, most teams they play against he won't set up the same way? That system will not suit Pogba at all in the position he played. They played not to lose by reinforcing their midfield or rather asked the whole team to defend first. Just watching the game and to be fair they didn't park the bus at least in the first half, but they took no risk of being out numbered in their half. This is why they hardly created a chance. They nevertheless have a good team
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Chris,
Correct me if I am wrong (as I was only able to watch the highlights) but wasn't Lallana brought on for Sturridge?
Firmino moved up and until that point had looked nearly as ineffective as Sturridge who then didn't have a chance to be fed by Lallana?
I agree he is really struggling and it appears he is not the sort of striker that can play in small spaces and messy packed boxes. We simply don't play to his strengths- where teams play high up the field and he gets in behind them on the break.
Your thoughts. Yes Lallana came on for Sturridge, then Firmino went up top and we looked a completely different team. Top strikers should be able to adapt their game and unfortunately it doesn't look like Sturridge can do this. He's a good player to have in the squad and I'd start him against teams we expect to beat and dominate against but I don't think there is a place for him against the very best teams in the league. The front 4 of Countinho, Lallana, Mane and Firmino works extremely well, they all constantly move and create space for each other, hence why they can be so destructive!
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From what I have read and heard it was a boar fest so no one was really doing much as usual in big games where a result would of been emence for us
Even a reporter who is an out and out Lfc fan said it was a terrible game ? Was it not then Chris ? It wasn't a very good game no, Utd bossed the first half without creating anything then we dominated the second, with De Gea making two top drawer saves. A draw was probably fair but its extremely difficult to play against a team that at some points had a flat back 6 in defence!
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Well we have to expect more of that now that utd showed how to stuff us at home
So need a better option than what we produced in the second have as it didn't work to well we still didn't score A draw against any Mourinho team that parks the bus isn't a bad result. All too often we've lost these type of games in recent years. We can't win every week! As long as we beat WBA on Saturday then I think it'll be a good point in the grand scheme of things.
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Well we have to expect more of that now that utd showed how to stuff us at home
So need a better option than what we produced in the second have as it didn't work to well we still didn't score A 0-0 Stuffing. Klopp out!
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Well we have to expect more of that now that utd showed how to stuff us at home
So need a better option than what we produced in the second have as it didn't work to well we still didn't score We had that all last season too and I think teams know what to try against us after the Burnley game. The difference is, Utd are a better side than most that will try it so will always be more difficult to break down.
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It wasn't a terrible game, we had some really good spells. United did very well in the first half to stop us playing. Anytime we'd string 3 or 4 passes together they'd foul and break our momentum. They were also quicker to loose balls and their passing was better.
We haven't faced that type of opposition so far....lessons learned hopefully. agree the talk that mourinho didn't know his best team before the game, surely now he does, maybe Mkhitaryan comes in on the right, or mata. because it was 0-0 we haven't faced that type of compact opposition before? man utd are a physical side like chelsea as I said before. and they were superior aerially like spurs winning 29 aerial duels to our 8. maybe man utd's passing was better overall (less risky) however statistically our passing success was 81% to josé 76%. I don't think that game will have shown his best team, though? Sure they were defensively sound for the most part, controlled the middle far better than us for the majority of the game but didn't create many chances. He came for the draw, most teams they play against he won't set up the same way? That system will not suit Pogba at all in the position he played. no but that is their second best game/performance this season since the community shield win over leicester. I'd be surprised if he played specifically for a draw, I know it's cliche but play to win if you want a draw. I don't think he will but as the bbc column said using the midfield to shield his defence, and width from the fullbacks it might be how he goes on. he came to prove a point and shut us down
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