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I think whoever plays against Utd can safely say they are now number one goal keeper.
Enough has been said about Mignolet. He's cost us more points than any other player I can remember. I think there was a point in the season where he conceded all 7 shots against him over the course of about 3/4games.
Karius hasn't been great though as he? He's conceded from corners. He hasn't come for crosses. He's stuck to his line but still somehow out of position. His handling hasn't been filling me with confidence either. He's needed two attempts to keep the shot out or just to get it under control.
Personally I'd stick with Karius. He's not been great in the 2/3 games but he's young and is still learning. Dropping him now would be a massive confidence hit. Mignolet has been poor for 3 years. No matter how bad Karius has been. Mignolet has done much much worse.
I'd rather have a keeper that can hopefully gain confidence and get better than a keeper who is below average and at fault for a massive percentage of our goals conceded.
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I think Karius was always going to be our No. 1 so think he'll keep his place. I've not seen enough of him to say whether he'll be good enough or not but he's and a bit of a shaky start. I won't right him off just yet as if we all remember, De Gea also had a shaky start for Utd.
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Karius can be better than mignolet long term, there are signs his distribution is better when he floated that lovely ball over to clyne, though I hope he doesn't always play the risky pass deciding to get it upfield instead. mignolet is better with a good defence infront of him, and played well, and I think he did well to get close to that strike from vokes. karius has looked calm but frozen in goal so far, just needs confidence and he can be a top keeper needs to prove himself though, didn't want to use that word.
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First of all Mignolet isn't below average. He is one of the better Premier League keepers. Mignolet has been inconsistent for 3 years, he's has some good spells in that time. And most recently this season he has looked very impressive in goal before the dithering Karius took over.
We are on the verge of a big big season and people are talking about the long-term, what about the present?
Also, I don't think their strengths and weaknesses look too dissimilar. There's just a difference in quality and experience.
Karius could be a top keeper and he needs game time but to throw him straight in as first choice for all competitions as it appears doesn't make sense when we have a better option for right now sitting on the bench.
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First of all Mignolet isn't below average. He is one of the better Premier League keepers. Mignolet has been inconsistent for 3 years, he's has some good spells in that time. And most recently this season he has looked very impressive in goal before the dithering Karius took over.
We are on the verge of a big big season and people are talking about the long-term, what about the present?
Also, I don't think their strengths and weaknesses look too dissimilar. There's just a difference in quality and experience.
Karius could be a top keeper and he needs game time but to throw him straight in as first choice for all competitions as it appears doesn't make sense when we have a better option for right now sitting on the bench. We all know Mignolet is an accident waiting to happen. Jury is still out on Karius and we wont know if we don't play him. .
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First of all Mignolet isn't below average. He is one of the better Premier League keepers. Mignolet has been inconsistent for 3 years, he's has some good spells in that time. And most recently this season he has looked very impressive in goal before the dithering Karius took over.
We are on the verge of a big big season and people are talking about the long-term, what about the present?
Also, I don't think their strengths and weaknesses look too dissimilar. There's just a difference in quality and experience.
Karius could be a top keeper and he needs game time but to throw him straight in as first choice for all competitions as it appears doesn't make sense when we have a better option for right now sitting on the bench. To be honest I haven't been convinced by Karius from what I have seen, but Mignolet hasn't been consistent ever. Karius is new to the PL and needs gametime to get to his level and this is why Klopp is playing him.
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First of all Mignolet isn't below average. He is one of the better Premier League keepers. Mignolet has been inconsistent for 3 years, he's has some good spells in that time. And most recently this season he has looked very impressive in goal before the dithering Karius took over.
We are on the verge of a big big season and people are talking about the long-term, what about the present?
Also, I don't think their strengths and weaknesses look too dissimilar. There's just a difference in quality and experience.
Karius could be a top keeper and he needs game time but to throw him straight in as first choice for all competitions as it appears doesn't make sense when we have a better option for right now sitting on the bench. You say he's been inconsistent for 3 years. I think that just means he's been poor and had a few good games. He was good for Sunderland and we have a habit of ruining good keepers. But his level has dropped. He costs us far too many points. De gea Cech lloris are all match winning keepers. Mignolet is at the bottom end of that scale no keeper has made more mistakes that have lead to goals than him since we signed him. Hes had 3 years to prove himself. Karius hasn't been great yet but as was said earlier De gea didn't start well either.
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Klopp bought klarius for a reason and it was not to be sub I think he has to be given a long run a season sounds about right like others I have not been overblown with him so far but let's have faith in Klopp,s judgement
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Finding a good keeper is a tough task as we've all seen at various clubs down the years. It's possible we could have two duds on our hands, but to be fair to Karius he hasn't had much of a chance to prove himself yet, but could we be picking a worse time to be trying out a new keeper? However we are where we are, and I say let's stick with Karius, now that we've put ourselves in this un envious position, otherwise as someone said we'll likely ruin his confidence, such as it is. No doubt Maureen has been whispering to his forwards: "lob in a few early crosses and see how we get on" snigger, snigger..
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what is with everybody being so quick to write of Karius? seriously he was a very accomplished keeper in the Bundesliga and with hope he will translate this to the prem...
remember De Gea's first season at utd, it was full of mistakes etc looking void of any confidence and look at him now.
just be reasonable and think logically before being to quick to criticize when he hasn't even had a full season under his belt
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