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I also don't think your analogy with Newcastle works either Newcastle were successful they were challenging for the title at one time their strategy was to develop the stadium to make themselves into a big club. Yes it's not worked but their thinking was the standard approach of all clubs accross the world. To be a successful club you need to have all aspects right. I am also not sure Liverpool are striving for success on the pitch either as hard as they could Klopp like Rodgers before him has to run a very tight ship transfer wise all the club seems to be now is an investment vehicle remember the days when we only existed to win trophies ?


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I also don't think your analogy with Newcastle works either Newcastle were successful they were challenging for the title at one time their strategy was to develop the stadium to make themselves into a big club. Yes it's not worked but their thinking was the standard approach of all clubs accross the world. To be a successful club you need to have all aspects right. I am also not sure Liverpool are striving for success on the pitch either as hard as they could Klopp like Rodgers before him has to run a very tight ship transfer wise all the club seems to be now is an investment vehicle REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN WE ONLY EXISTED TO WIN TROPHIES ?

I doubt if RFC does remember those days Stanley, I suspect he is a tad on the young side for that. I imagine he’s also at the disadvantage of not (to any great extent) experiencing the atmosphere in the stadium in those great days. To fully appreciate the value of a great stadium you have to experience it when the fans are on a high and in full voice, theres nothing to raise the hair on the back of one’s neck quite like the full throated sound of the 'Anfield Roar’.
It’s a disaster of historic proportions to think that we are now unlikely ever to hear what that would sound like in a stadium of 70-75,000 ecstatic Liverpool fans, it’s sad beyond words imo.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Well Vish your last sentence defeats your own argument yes we need to have a decent capacity stadium. Re old Trafford I remember in the 80,s their capacity was broadly as ours yes the success under Ferguson was a factor but so was the development of their infrastructure I remember United being one of the first clubs to introduce merchandising in a major way. This was all part of their game plan and I was at the Rick parry meeting questioning was about the need for Liverpool to develop a new stadium to compete with Man united nothing has changed from that situation it's not a case we no longer need a new stadium it's we can't afford one or our owners won't take the financial risk. But it's worse than that now even redeveloping anfield is now on hold the sum extent of FSG,s efforts is to replace the main stand.


What has changed now is the share which gate revenue represents in overall revenues, it is only 20% now while in the past it was 80%. If fans were ready to pay more for a new stadium then maybe there was a possibility but they do not even want to pay for a newer stand

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I also don't think your analogy with Newcastle works either Newcastle were successful they were challenging for the title at one time their strategy was to develop the stadium to make themselves into a big club. Yes it's not worked but their thinking was the standard approach of all clubs accross the world. To be a successful club you need to have all aspects right. I am also not sure Liverpool are striving for success on the pitch either as hard as they could Klopp like Rodgers before him has to run a very tight ship transfer wise all the club seems to be now is an investment vehicle REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN WE ONLY EXISTED TO WIN TROPHIES ?

I doubt if RFC does remember those days Stanley, I suspect he is a tad on the young side for that. I imagine he’s also at the disadvantage of not (to any great extent) experiencing the atmosphere in the stadium in those great days. To fully appreciate the value of a great stadium you have to experience it when the fans are on a high and in full voice, theres nothing to raise the hair on the back of one’s neck quite like the full throated sound of the 'Anfield Roar’.
It’s a disaster of historic proportions to think that we are now unlikely ever to hear what that would sound like in a stadium of 70-75,000 ecstatic Liverpool fans, it’s sad beyond words imo.


I don't think there was ever a plan to go beyond 60k seats

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I also don't think your analogy with Newcastle works either Newcastle were successful they were challenging for the title at one time their strategy was to develop the stadium to make themselves into a big club. Yes it's not worked but their thinking was the standard approach of all clubs accross the world. To be a successful club you need to have all aspects right. I am also not sure Liverpool are striving for success on the pitch either as hard as they could Klopp like Rodgers before him has to run a very tight ship transfer wise all the club seems to be now is an investment vehicle REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN WE ONLY EXISTED TO WIN TROPHIES ?

I doubt if RFC does remember those days Stanley, I suspect he is a tad on the young side for that. I imagine he’s also at the disadvantage of not (to any great extent) experiencing the atmosphere in the stadium in those great days. To fully appreciate the value of a great stadium you have to experience it when the fans are on a high and in full voice, theres nothing to raise the hair on the back of one’s neck quite like the full throated sound of the 'Anfield Roar’.
It’s a disaster of historic proportions to think that we are now unlikely ever to hear what that would sound like in a stadium of 70-75,000 ecstatic Liverpool fans, it’s sad beyond words imo.


I don't think there was ever a plan to go beyond 60k seats


The plans H&G paid £50million for were a 60,000 seater stadium at Stanley Park, which was expandable to 73,000 in the future. I think the Anfield expansion/refurb has always been around 60,000 with the Main Stand & Anfield Road.

It wouldn't surprise me if these comments from FSG about ticket prices/anfield road doubt are just delaying tactics while they are negotiating with the perspective Chinese buyers, we probably won't commit to any major changes/investments like Anfield Road development while that is under discussion, which I am sure it is since the story broke 2 months ago, as the Chinese will have their own plans.


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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I also don't think your analogy with Newcastle works either Newcastle were successful they were challenging for the title at one time their strategy was to develop the stadium to make themselves into a big club. Yes it's not worked but their thinking was the standard approach of all clubs accross the world. To be a successful club you need to have all aspects right. I am also not sure Liverpool are striving for success on the pitch either as hard as they could Klopp like Rodgers before him has to run a very tight ship transfer wise all the club seems to be now is an investment vehicle REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN WE ONLY EXISTED TO WIN TROPHIES ?

I doubt if RFC does remember those days Stanley, I suspect he is a tad on the young side for that. I imagine he’s also at the disadvantage of not (to any great extent) experiencing the atmosphere in the stadium in those great days. To fully appreciate the value of a great stadium you have to experience it when the fans are on a high and in full voice, theres nothing to raise the hair on the back of one’s neck quite like the full throated sound of the 'Anfield Roar’.
It’s a disaster of historic proportions to think that we are now unlikely ever to hear what that would sound like in a stadium of 70-75,000 ecstatic Liverpool fans, it’s sad beyond words imo.


I don't think there was ever a plan to go beyond 60k seats


The plans H&G paid £50million for were a 60,000 seater stadium at Stanley Park, which was expandable to 73,000 in the future. I think the Anfield expansion/refurb has always been around 60,000 with the Main Stand & Anfield Road.

It wouldn't surprise me if these comments from FSG about ticket prices/anfield road doubt are just delaying tactics while they are negotiating with the perspective Chinese buyers, we probably won't commit to any major changes/investments like Anfield Road development while that is under discussion, which I am sure it is since the story broke 2 months ago, as the Chinese will have their own plans.



I won't give any importance to the plans of those H&G fkers

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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions


I won't give any importance to the plans of those H&G fkers


Well according to some, had it not been for the financial crash, they'd have done what FSG won't and would've built the new stadium! Convenient excuse eh?

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Moores for all his faults loved the club how can you be an owner of a club and not be interested in its fortunes ?


Yup loved it so much he sold to the yanks for a few more pennies without checking their backgrounds and track record and nearly destroyed the club.

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Originally Posted By jammysht
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Moores for all his faults loved the club how can you be an owner of a club and not be interested in its fortunes ?


Yup loved it so much he sold to the yanks for a few more pennies without checking their backgrounds and track record and nearly destroyed the club.


Not defending moores but under company law he was obliged to take the highest offer he had to act in the interests of shareholders there were many small shareholders at the time. He sold because the club needed a new stadium ten years on all we have is a new stand we might as well have stuck with moores at least he was a fan. Although he had no idea commercially however with a good managing director it might have worked better than this situation we are in now. As for checking their backgrounds moores had a team of professionals to do that

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Moores for all his faults loved the club how can you be an owner of a club and not be interested in its fortunes ?


Yup loved it so much he sold to the yanks for a few more pennies without checking their backgrounds and track record and nearly destroyed the club.


Not defending moores but under company law he was obliged to take the highest offer he had to act in the interests of shareholders there were many small shareholders at the time. He sold because the club needed a new stadium ten years on all we have is a new stand we might as well have stuck with moores at least he was a fan. Although he had no idea commercially however with a good managing director it might have worked better than this situation we are in now. As for checking their backgrounds moores had a team of professionals to do that


Didn't do a very good job did they? You could tell from the outset that those clowns were chancers and wouldn't do us any good. How could they if they bought the club with loans?

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