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I am not saying the manager is the problem I am saying he is part of the problem, Its not one bad season either in the league it's been five out of six. what I am asking is how can people back this man when he has replaced Big Sami with Kyrgiakos, Arbeloa was replaced by 17.5 million pound Glen Johnson and Xabi Alonso replaced by another 17.1 million pound player in Aqualani yet we have gone from finishing second with two losses to last season finishing seventh and losing eleven games. The team is weaker than it was last season yet the manager has threw 36.5 million pound on making us better.
Fans need to get wise, we all know how bad the two Americans are but to totaly bury heads in the sand about the damage the manager is doing is gross denial, he has to take full responsibility that his time as manager has not been good enough, he needs to walk away while he still has some credibility in world football so he can still get a top job elsewhere. I have not had a go at anyone on here with this reply so please if you do reply lets keep it civilised and we can discuss differences of opinion in the right manner.

5 bad seasons out of 6?Thats just rubbish.I really dont think you understand how bad those cancers are to be honest with you.
Go to the SOS site and educate yourself on how bad things really are...I cant believe with the club in such peril all you can talk about is Benitez...unbelievable!
At least you aknowledge the fact he is a top coach...so lets get rid shall we and bring in erm..er..er i got it Hodgson Please think logically before you come on here blurting out bile.

Wiining the Champions league in 2005 was one of the most fantastic nites ever, what you have to understand is Liverpool Football Club will always be judged by what it does in the league and five out of the current managers six seasons in charge we have only ever been in a title race once after xmas which was the season before last, that in anyones book is hardly rubbish now is it. You talk about this unoficial Union called the S.O.S. with it's self proclaimed insistance that it is the voice of Liverpool Football Clubs support, what a load of tosh, they are just mealy mouthed, big I am's trying to get there foot in the door of the Club for there own gains, funny that they only raise there ugly heads every time we have a bad result or something bad happens off the park, where where these jokers when we beat Madrid and United away the season before last, we never heard a peep because we where doing quite well at the time results wise. All this S.O.S. are doing is splitting the clubs support between those for and against this mickey mouse union, if these S.O.S have anything about them as soon as the Americans leave then they should do the rite thing and disperse because they were formed purely and simply as a protest group. I do think Benitez is a good manager my feelings are just not for us, he is incompetent in his job and has wasted millions on poor judgements on players, I do think he will get a top job elsewhere and i would welcome that just as long as he leaves as quickly as possible. The Americans take most of the blame with whats wrong with our club but the manager cant be allowed to get away with his role in our demise, we need to get shut of them all and start a whole new regime.

So who put those posters up around the city last March(2009)trying to force the yanks out(have you seen them)?

Who has gained so much recognition that they were granted a meeting with the FA so that to voice their concerns on what the cancers are doing to our club.

And in the same breath were also granted the opportunity to question Hicks himself of their fears for the clubs financial future.
These people have a genuine love for this club and are not doing all this to gain "hero" status.

You shouldnt just disregard these people and their efforts because they dont hate Benitez,you really need to look past your hatred for Benitez and look at how these leeches are bleeding the club dry.What reallistically is a new manager going to change in the current circumstances?

I dislike anyone i fear is damaging my club and i include the Americans for there lies, Benitez for his incompetence in the job and the S.O.S. for splitting the clubs fan base, as i have said once the Americans have left will the S.O.S. do the right thing and disband. Dont the S.O.S realise that they are putting potential owners off by constantly causing trouble for the club, whats going to happen when we get new owners and they want to make a change to THERE club which they have just bought, are we going to have all this protesting again every time the S.O.S dont like a change, dont they realise they are damaging the club further with all this useless protesting.

Do you realise that our losses are putting us on the brink of the "A" word?The sos are not scaremongering they are voicing their grievance at what we are on the brink of.They are not dividing the fans and if you speak to some of their senior members you will see that they would happily see the back of Benitez once those yanks are gone.Its not about Benitez at the moment its alot more serious then that.Benitez has not had a decent transfer budget to work with since the signing of Torres 3 years ago, we have being running at a profit on that front which says it all!Spurs and City have thrown big money at it this year,and they have overtaken us...coincidence?Redknapp and Mancini both better managers?I think not.

The S.O.S. are urging people to join there unofficial union and there are thousands and thousands who are just happy to stay out of there so called cause, thats why they are dividing there support, all i want to do is go and enjoy the match without being told to sing Anti American songs or stay behind on pointless protests. You say Benitez has'nt had a decent transfer budget well how has he come to spend 230 million pound on players he has wanted to sign. Only this summer he has just signed the costliest full back in the british game and can only think of Danny Alvez at Barcelona to of cost more in world football, to sign a full back for that much when we needed more important areas of the team strenghthening is gross incompetency in my book. You talk about balancing the books which is fine but what you fail to understand is I look at it from a supporters point of view not from whats at the bottom of a balance sheet, this means my only concern is wether the players i watch each week running around the pitch have been value for money and good enough and am afraid players like Babel 11.5, Mascherano 22.5, Aqualani 20.0, Robbie Keane 20.0,Johnson 20.0, Lucas 6.5, Kuty 10.5, Morientes 6.5 and Dossena 7.5 have all proved how poor a judgement this manager has in players who are just not good enough for Liverpool Football Club.

I could sit here and argue this all night mate,but bearing in mind what Dunk wrote about his feelings towards the club and the negativity surrounding it i will choose to show the man some respect and leave it be.Good debate anyhow Red.

fair play boys, that was a battle of the long posters.

Fair play on that one, it's all about opinions is'nt it, without peoples differences we would'nt have anything to talk about or discuss.