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#543848 17/09/16 08:54 PM
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Much improved from previous games but he doesn't seem as comfortable on the ball as our other attacking players and defensively doesn't seem as solid as Can or Hendo.

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I liked him at feyenoord. PSV and Newcastle. I think he's been a bit poor for us but he's showed flashes of brilliance here and there so I think he will be really important for us.

Loved his forward runs driving the team forward too against Chelsea. There was a 5 min period against Chelsea though where he gave away the ball about 6 times and it infuriated me. But I like him.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
I liked him at feyenoord. PSV and Newcastle. I think he's been a bit poor for us but he's showed flashes of brilliance here and there so I think he will be really important for us.

Loved his forward runs driving the team forward too against Chelsea. There was a 5 min period against Chelsea though where he gave away the ball about 6 times and it infuriated me. But I like him.


yes his forward runs looking to go past players pleased me too this match, he's got good strength (and decent pace) I like to see him using it at the right time, he can be a clever player.

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Firstly, biggest compliment to Klopp is the quality we have in and around the first XI.

Mignolet
Clyne, Milner, Moreno
Matip, Klavan, Lovren
Lucas, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana
Firmino, Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge

15 players that have started at least one game this season, with minimal dip in general quality individually or in the team. Add to that list Karius, Sakho, Grujic, Can, Ings and Origi of players that have previously shown promise, made appearances from the bench, or look like they might step up quickly, and you can see the general squad quality is already looking informed and at worst solid. I could mention Stewart here too.

Wijnaldum is one of 7/8 players who could feature for Liverpool in midfield of those players listed and has settled in slowly. Of late, his performances have been more and more impressive. Not always the "obvious" good performer in midfield, he has gone about doing the less impressive stuff more and is a grafter capable and happy to do the less attractive work.

Against Chelsea, his interceptions and persistence helped restrict Chelsea's real chances after their goal to near zero. Costa having just the one opportunity striking from the edge of the box straight at Mignolet.

Wijnaldum will need to look to offer more offensively as he settles, but he's arriving more and more on the edge of the box and has had a few opportunities to open his account. A real competition for midfield places will determine his position in the squad long-term. But he looks, on his early displays, worth a fair chunk of the money we paid for him. He seems another James Milner type, in that I think his versatility would normally make him more susceptible to changing roles constantly, but under Klopp, he seems like he is learning and adapting to bring his role from the Dutch National Team to the Premier League.

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Originally Posted By jjmelling/Stato

Firstly, biggest compliment to Klopp is the quality we have in and around the first XI.

Mignolet
Clyne, Milner, Moreno
Matip, Klavan, Lovren
Lucas, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana
Firmino, Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge

15 players that have started at least one game this season, with minimal dip in general quality individually or in the team. Add to that list Karius, Sakho, Grujic, Can, Ings and Origi of players that have previously shown promise, made appearances from the bench, or look like they might step up quickly, and you can see the general squad quality is already looking informed and at worst solid. I could mention Stewart here too.

Wijnaldum is one of 7/8 players who could feature for Liverpool in midfield of those players listed and has settled in slowly. Of late, his performances have been more and more impressive. Not always the "obvious" good performer in midfield, he has gone about doing the less impressive stuff more and is a grafter capable and happy to do the less attractive work.

Against Chelsea, his interceptions and persistence helped restrict Chelsea's real chances after their goal to near zero. Costa having just the one opportunity striking from the edge of the box straight at Mignolet.

Wijnaldum will need to look to offer more offensively as he settles, but he's arriving more and more on the edge of the box and has had a few opportunities to open his account. A real competition for midfield places will determine his position in the squad long-term. But he looks, on his early displays, worth a fair chunk of the money we paid for him. He seems another James Milner type, in that I think his versatility would normally make him more susceptible to changing roles constantly, but under Klopp, he seems like he is learning and adapting to bring his role from the Dutch National Team to the Premier League.


I'd agree if you were to drop Migs, Moreno and to a lesser extent Klavan from that list JJ, but otherwise I'd agree Klopp has strengthened somewhat in the last two windows. And then he has improved some of the players he inherited as well. So all good under the good Klopp'o so far.

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
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I'd agree if you were to drop Migs, Moreno and to a lesser extent Klavan from that list JJ, but otherwise I'd agree Klopp has strengthened somewhat in the last two windows. And then he has improved some of the players he inherited as well. So all good under the good Klopp'o so far.


Yeah, Klopp has done well, the squad is stronger and feels we have quality to come in to replace anyone, so the team is not weakened, like losing Firminho and we have Coutinho to come in.

He has also improved players like Lovren/Firminho/Lallana/Origi, I just wonder if he could have dome something with Ibe, I know we got good money, but he has so much potential, especially with Mane going to the African Nations Cup in January, we could come to regret selling him, I think we have a buy back clause though don't we?



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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
I just wonder if he could have dome something with Ibe, I know we got good money, but he has so much potential, especially with Mane going to the African Nations Cup in January, we could come to regret selling him, I think we have a buy back clause though don't we?


I don't see the potential with Ibe, I really don't. He showed glimpses towards the end of the 14/15 season but was awful last season when given an opportunity and he's done nothing since joining Bournemouth.

If you compare him to Sterling they are absolutely worlds apart and I think we made the right decision in getting rid, £15million is treble what he's worth!

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I just wonder if he could have dome something with Ibe, I know we got good money, but he has so much potential, especially with Mane going to the African Nations Cup in January, we could come to regret selling him, I think we have a buy back clause though don't we?


I don't see the potential with Ibe, I really don't. He showed glimpses towards the end of the 14/15 season but was awful last season when given an opportunity and he's done nothing since joining Bournemouth.

If you compare him to Sterling they are absolutely worlds apart and I think we made the right decision in getting rid, £15million is treble what he's worth!


Your probably right, Klopp had seen enough of him to make the judgemnt and £15million is allot of money, it seems Klopp also wanted to make room for players coming through like Ojo and Wilson, with no European football there aren't the games to keep them playing.

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Gini is an upgrade on joe allen. Good value considering how much we recouped back from the sale of Joe.

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The lad is blossoming as he settles in. He has been a little careless with his passing, but I am impressed that his first priority is to create attacks with forward and angled passes.
Good running and movements off the ball too.
I look forward to seeing him combine with Can when he returns.

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