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Yeah I believe Klopp is a very good manager, but I also believe that even the best managers need to have a squad roughly equal in quality terms to the squads of their main competitors, all other things being equal. If this is the case why do you expect Klopp to at least (your words) match Rodgers' 2nd place finish? We're competing against Mourinho at Man Utd and Guardiola at Man City which means those teams are now a lot better and tougher! We also don't have a Suarez or a Gerrard to mask over obvious weaknesses in the rest of our team! Klopp is the best manager we can get for the resources we have, he demands so much from his players. If we had a team with Suarez and other top players around the pitch you probably wouldn't say Klopp is the perfect manager. You'd probaby want a Guardiola or a Rodgers style of manager. But for what we've got, Klopp is the best in world football.
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Fantastic motivator, gets the last drop out of every player. I actually think Klopp and FSG are a really good fit. I like how he wants to build a team of 11 rather than building a team around a couple of individuals. Fans love him, really good brand of football when we play well. He is a specialist in developing teams with modest resources.
My only problem I have is how far can we go with limited resources (FSG). This is the Prem not the Bundesliga after all , and we have got Utd and City with vast resources and great tacticians in Guardiola and Mourinho. Klopp I believe is the best manager in the world to work on the resources we have and compete right at the top of the table.
The only question I have left is can Klopp make up for the gap in resources between the top teams and be able to compete with the master tacticians such as Mourinho and Guardiola on a consistent basis?
I fear the only we can truly compete is with more resources and a master tactician like our rivals, but you just never know.
Well he has already performed exactly the same task in Germany by overcoming a team with much larger resources in Bayern Munich, so surely he is the man for the job. What other manager can you suggest who has done the same? The only others I can think of are Rafa and Ranieri. Would you suggest one of these? Granted it is more difficult in the Premier league as there are three clubs who will spend their way out of any problems rather than one in Germany, however I think he is the perfect manager for us at this time and I can't think of another manager who would have a better chance of bringing back trophies. He's already come close to two in just a few months with what was a struggling team. 100 percent the man for the job just don't know how far we can go with the resources we've got even with the world-class Klopp.
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Klopp is the best manager we can get for the resources we have, he demands so much from his players.
If we had a team with Suarez and other top players around the pitch you probably wouldn't say Klopp is the perfect manager. You'd probaby want a Guardiola or a Rodgers style of manager. But for what we've got, Klopp is the best in world football. seriously Red?  I don't think so. Rodgers should never have been anywhere near the job. But let's not let this thread get diverted. Just couldn't let your statement go without being challenged though.
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I nearly fell off my sofa when I read that mighty!
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I nearly fell off my sofa when I read that mighty! Indeed. Bracketing Rodgers with Guardiola! Waiting for Red to come and explain that one. Makes it sounds like we'd be torn between the two if we ever had the choice. There would be civil war... the fans would be split 50:50 
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If we had a team with Suarez and other top players around the pitch you probably wouldn't say Klopp is the perfect manager. You'd probaby want a Guardiola or a Rodgers style of manager. But for what we've got, Klopp is the best in world football.
Yes you would, Suarez's all action style of play means he would be the perfect striker for a Klopp team. Also please don't mention Rodgers in the same sentence as Guardiola, it's embarrassing, even for you!
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Klopp is the best manager we can get for the resources we have, he demands so much from his players.
If we had a team with Suarez and other top players around the pitch you probably wouldn't say Klopp is the perfect manager. You'd probaby want a Guardiola or a Rodgers style of manager. But for what we've got, Klopp is the best in world football. seriously Red? I don't think so. Rodgers should never have been anywhere near the job. But let's not let this thread get diverted. Just couldn't let your statement go without being challenged though. No I didn't mean Rodgers is on the level of Guardiola or good enough to manage a team of top top players. But he is a clever tactician and can get put top players in a system to play well (like with Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho in 13-14).
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I nearly fell off my sofa when I read that mighty!  [oops] me. he gets high before showing up on koptalk
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Fantastic motivator, gets the last drop out of every player. I actually think Klopp and FSG are a really good fit. I like how he wants to build a team of 11 rather than building a team around a couple of individuals. Fans love him, really good brand of football when we play well. He is a specialist in developing teams with modest resources.
My only problem I have is how far can we go with limited resources (FSG). This is the Prem not the Bundesliga after all , and we have got Utd and City with vast resources and great tacticians in Guardiola and Mourinho. Klopp I believe is the best manager in the world to work on the resources we have and compete right at the top of the table.
The only question I have left is can Klopp make up for the gap in resources between the top teams and be able to compete with the master tacticians such as Mourinho and Guardiola on a consistent basis?
I fear the only we can truly compete is with more resources and a master tactician like our rivals, but you just never know.
Getting Rodgers team to the Europa League final is master tactician job, so not issues there. Resources is an issue though.
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Fantastic motivator, gets the last drop out of every player. I actually think Klopp and FSG are a really good fit. I like how he wants to build a team of 11 rather than building a team around a couple of individuals. Fans love him, really good brand of football when we play well. He is a specialist in developing teams with modest resources.
My only problem I have is how far can we go with limited resources (FSG). This is the Prem not the Bundesliga after all , and we have got Utd and City with vast resources and great tacticians in Guardiola and Mourinho. Klopp I believe is the best manager in the world to work on the resources we have and compete right at the top of the table.
The only question I have left is can Klopp make up for the gap in resources between the top teams and be able to compete with the master tacticians such as Mourinho and Guardiola on a consistent basis?
I fear the only we can truly compete is with more resources and a master tactician like our rivals, but you just never know.
Getting Rodgers team to the Europa League final is master tactician job, so not issues there. Resources is an issue though. We had one of the best squads in the whole competition. we lost a game we should have won in the final so no miracle.
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