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It looks to me that both the Sakho and Sturridge issues have been created by the management, but I don't know if it's by FSG or Klopp or both, but it's clearly been driven from the management level rather than the players. As far as I can see the players want to play but they're being messed around to a quite unusual extent by the management, for some reason or other and the timing of this is just ridiculous. I actually agree with you Herc and it remains to be seen if this hard line stance with high value players can work in this league. It's all very well doing this in Germany where Klopp has built squads from nobodies but the feeling I get from a far is that his man management skills may need a change (or at least be toned down with these modern day babies) of direction or we are going to have a Chelsea under Mourhino on our hands pretty quick. I still don't get the Sturridge line at all. This is a genuine question to those who live football 24/7- How many CF's at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?
I'm struggling to think of many. Do Higuain, Tevez or Aguero do it? No, but because suarez presses so well, playing between the lines and tracks back on occasion it helps barca play with 3 forwards as opposed to a more psg imbra setup of him being the absolute main goalscorer
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add on, although it's worth saying he doesn't always press and create space for others ofc. that's why he could still appear as a 'main goalscorer'. like red scouser said these players are few and have fantastic workrate.
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I still don't get the Sturridge line at all. This is a genuine question to those who live football 24/7- How many CF's at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?
I'm struggling to think of many. Do Higuain, Tevez or Aguero do it?
Aguero has said himself recently about how he needs to work really hard under Guardiola as he has made it clear that he, even though a striker is the first line of defence. All the best teams and strikers defend from the ball and win the ball back as quick as possible, Lewandowski, Muller, Suarez, Tevez, Aguero, etc all are good examples of this.
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Klopp would have loved Rushy
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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I still don't get the Sturridge line at all. This is a genuine question to those who live football 24/7- How many CF's at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?
I'm struggling to think of many. Do Higuain, Tevez or Aguero
Aguero has said himself recently about how he needs to work really hard under Guardiola as he has made it clear that he, even though a striker is the first line of defence.
All the best teams and strikers defend from the ball and win the ball back as quick as possible, Lewandowski, Muller, Suarez, Tevez, Aguero, etc all are good examples of this. The question was: How many CFs at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker? The answer should have been: None are doing that, some do try to win the ball high up the pitch but they seldom try to do the defensive work of a DMF and then run the length of the pitch to break away and score as a striker. If you see them back in defense it's almost always when defending set pieces , not during normal play.
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Or if a team is playing with 2 strikers. They might track back and defend deeper one at the time.
Or 1 of the 2 strikers might have that role all the time.
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After the melt-down with Rafa, the debacle with Hodgson, the mistake with King Kenny and the "outstanding" period with Owl Face, I think most fans have become conditioned to witnessing inept management. And we have gotten use to being better than the "manager" at picking a better team - and rightly so unfortunately.
Klopp is a real boss. He is a winner. He leads and commands and rewards and reprimands.
He doesn't take shyte or pamper players and expects them to behave and perform like mature professional footballers.
We are lucky to have Klopp in charge and providing the owners support him, I have no doubt this club will be mighty again.
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The question was: How many CFs at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?
The answer should have been: None are doing that, some do try to win the ball high up the pitch but they seldom try to do the defensive work of a DMF and then run the length of the pitch to break away and score as a striker. If you see them back in defense it's almost always when defending set pieces , not during normal play. Ok, so does a striker just need to hang around the 18 yard box and hope the ball breaks for him to take a chance and score? Does he not have a responsibility to work as hard as the rest of the team? Being a proper striker involves selfless off the ball running, good movement and work rate and also playing for the team, making spaces for others as well as themselves.
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ok. for what its worth. saw a video compilation of dannys goals on lfc tv ... you could see how was he involved,moved around,linked etc etc etc,,,
from what i saw , none of the goals were just the *bloody* service to him while he was in 18 yards box scratching his arse.
its either his fragile body/ fitness or the lazy sulking attitude being the reason at present
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ok. for what its worth. saw a video compilation of dannys goals on lfc tv ... you could see how was he involved,moved around,linked etc etc etc,,,
from what i saw , none of the goals were just the *bloody* service to him while he was in 18 yards box scratching his arse.
its either his fragile body/ fitness or the lazy sulking attitude being the reason at present Yeah I saw this video as well, he has got seriously good ability with the ball at his feet and a natural finish on him as well. He just needs to improve his all round game for me then he'll be starting every week if fit.
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