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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
sakho is unsellable now and sturridge is undroppable , well if this is the case then klopp must leave now because what klopp wants the fans seen to not want so not a full year and some fans have turned on klopp over a player who is never fit and a player who is clearly trouble and missed pre season because of his own stupid actions and attitude and lets get it right sakho is at best decent at best not great .


Sturridge undroppable? How have you worked that out? He's only started one of four games this season!



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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
sakho is unsellable now and sturridge is undroppable , well if this is the case then klopp must leave now because what klopp wants the fans seen to not want so not a full year and some fans have turned on klopp over a player who is never fit and a player who is clearly trouble and missed pre season because of his own stupid actions and attitude and lets get it right sakho is at best decent at best not great .


Sturridge undroppable? How have you worked that out? He's only started one of four games this season!
This majority on this forum which have posted recently have sided with the players against the manager, except a lot of them aren't blaming the manager they're blaming FSG for everything.

This forum has lost faith with Klopp already, yet it is unacceptable to question Klopp on this forum even by the few people who still have faith in him. Well done this is what happens when you try to control the forum.
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
sakho is unsellable now and sturridge is undroppable , well if this is the case then klopp must leave now because what klopp wants the fans seen to not want so not a full year and some fans have turned on klopp over a player who is never fit and a player who is clearly trouble and missed pre season because of his own stupid actions and attitude and lets get it right sakho is at best decent at best not great .


Sturridge undroppable? How have you worked that out? He's only started one of four games this season!
This majority on this forum which have posted recently have sided with the players against the manager, except a lot of them aren't blaming the manager they're blaming FSG for everything.

This forum has lost faith with Klopp already, yet it is unacceptable to question Klopp on this forum even by the few people who still have faith in him. Well done this is what happens when you try to control the forum.


Red I get where your coming from but personally I dont think this is the managers doing. I could be wrong, Im just saying Ive seen what FSG have done before do previous players and manager. Although I disagree with you on nearly everything football I think this time you raise a good point. No manager is unquestionable just because they done a good job at another team. I do think tough he will do well with us if hes properly backed. The fact is we cant say for 100% sure if its the manager or owners or even both because we dont fully know, we can only draw conclusions based on the evidence of what actions the club takes.

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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
sakho is unsellable now and sturridge is undroppable , well if this is the case then klopp must leave now because what klopp wants the fans seen to not want so not a full year and some fans have turned on klopp over a player who is never fit and a player who is clearly trouble and missed pre season because of his own stupid actions and attitude and lets get it right sakho is at best decent at best not great .


Sturridge undroppable? How have you worked that out? He's only started one of four games this season!
This majority on this forum which have posted recently have sided with the players against the manager, except a lot of them aren't blaming the manager they're blaming FSG for everything.

This forum has lost faith with Klopp already, yet it is unacceptable to question Klopp on this forum even by the few people who still have faith in him. Well done this is what happens when you try to control the forum.
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By fazakerley red 1
sakho is unsellable now and sturridge is undroppable , well if this is the case then klopp must leave now because what klopp wants the fans seen to not want so not a full year and some fans have turned on klopp over a player who is never fit and a player who is clearly trouble and missed pre season because of his own stupid actions and attitude and lets get it right sakho is at best decent at best not great .


Sturridge undroppable? How have you worked that out? He's only started one of four games this season!
This majority on this forum which have posted recently have sided with the players against the manager, except a lot of them aren't blaming the manager they're blaming FSG for everything.

This forum has lost faith with Klopp already, yet it is unacceptable to question Klopp on this forum even by the few people who still have faith in him. Well done this is what happens when you try to control the forum.


Red I get where your coming from but personally I dont think this is the managers doing. I could be wrong, Im just saying Ive seen what FSG have done before do previous players and manager. Although I disagree with you on nearly everything football I think this time you raise a good point. No manager is unquestionable just because they done a good job at another team. I do think tough he will do well with us if hes properly backed. The fact is we cant say for 100% sure if its the manager or owners or even both because we dont fully know, we can only draw conclusions based on the evidence of what actions the club takes.
I don't disagree with the Sakho one you could say that was mainly his fault. Bringing Sturridge on with a couple of minutes left off the bench was a wierd one but that has got to be the manager not FSG. Never know for certain with anything. The problem I have is people on here heralding Klopp before he has done anything and then on the slightest matter siding against Klopp yet blaming FSG for everything. And then when I am totally behind Klopp and question a decision or make a talking point about him for discussion it gets shut down by the usual.

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Red I get where your coming from but personally I dont think this is the managers doing. I could be wrong, Im just saying Ive seen what FSG have done before do previous players and manager. Although I disagree with you on nearly everything football I think this time you raise a good point. No manager is unquestionable just because they done a good job at another team. I do think tough he will do well with us if hes properly backed. The fact is we cant say for 100% sure if its the manager or owners or even both because we dont fully know, we can only draw conclusions based on the evidence of what actions the club takes.


but they are though they are the manager. I've already said there is a difference between idle criticism and fierce criticism. the owners however they been here for a fairly long time and shown an unequivocal answer, of lack of progress.

you can write down all your gripes then come out with them at the end of 3 years

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Honestly don't remember Rodgers getting this much stick when he forced out agger. I don't remember him getting this much stick after 10months either.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Honestly don't remember Rodgers getting this much stick when he forced out agger. I don't remember him getting this much stick after 10months either.
Agger was desperate to go totally different, and there was progress under Rodgers after 10 months, what progress there has been under Klopp in the cup competitions has been more than offset by the inconsistent under par league showing.

This is a silly argument yet again trying to protect Klopp, but was Klopp lambasted for playing players out of their natural positions or his inability to attract big names?

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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
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Honestly don't remember Rodgers getting this much stick when he forced out agger. I don't remember him getting this much stick after 10months either.
Agger was desperate to go totally different, and there was progress under Rodgers after 10 months, what progress there has been under Klopp in the cup competitions has been more than offset by the inconsistent under par league showing.

This is a silly argument yet again trying to protect Klopp, but was Klopp lambasted for playing players out of their natural positions or his inability to attract big names?


Agger didn't want to leave. He's quoted as saying that. "Let me put it this way, me and the manager were perhaps not on the same page last season. For most of the season at least," he told Danish sports channel
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...brendan-rodgers

In his first season we signed Fabio borini and Joe Allen. Got beat my west brom 3-0 on the opening day. Got knocked out of both cups by Oldham and Swansea and finished 7th

Progress.

It's weird isn't it, my "silly argument" is backed up by facts. And yours is....um. Fabricated bullshiit

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Honestly don't remember Rodgers getting this much stick when he forced out agger. I don't remember him getting this much stick after 10months either.
Agger was desperate to go totally different, and there was progress under Rodgers after 10 months, what progress there has been under Klopp in the cup competitions has been more than offset by the inconsistent under par league showing.

This is a silly argument yet again trying to protect Klopp, but was Klopp lambasted for playing players out of their natural positions or his inability to attract big names?


Agger didn't want to leave. He's quoted as saying that. "Let me put it this way, me and the manager were perhaps not on the same page last season. For most of the season at least," he told Danish sports channel
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...brendan-rodgers

In his first season we signed Fabio borini and Joe Allen. Got beat my west brom 3-0 on the opening day. Got knocked out of both cups by Oldham and Swansea and finished 7th

Progress.

It's weird isn't it, my "silly argument" is backed up by facts. And yours is....um. Fabricated bullshiit




More rubbish again. You've selectedly picked individual stats. Overall Liverpool were 9 points up in Rodgers' first season from the previous one and a higher points total than last season with Klopp in charge.

Agger really struggled with injuries, he made mistakes, dropped out of favour under Rodgers (yes it appears they didn't see eye to eye), and was desperate for a move and now he has retired because of his injuries so he was on his way out anyway which is a shame.

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You know RS, you could always go and support Rodgers FC up in Glasgow?

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Originally Posted By Red_Scouser
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Honestly don't remember Rodgers getting this much stick when he forced out agger. I don't remember him getting this much stick after 10months either.
Agger was desperate to go totally different, and there was progress under Rodgers after 10 months, what progress there has been under Klopp in the cup competitions has been more than offset by the inconsistent under par league showing.

This is a silly argument yet again trying to protect Klopp, but was Klopp lambasted for playing players out of their natural positions or his inability to attract big names?


Agger didn't want to leave. He's quoted as saying that. "Let me put it this way, me and the manager were perhaps not on the same page last season. For most of the season at least," he told Danish sports channel
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...brendan-rodgers

In his first season we signed Fabio borini and Joe Allen. Got beat my west brom 3-0 on the opening day. Got knocked out of both cups by Oldham and Swansea and finished 7th

Progress.

It's weird isn't it, my "silly argument" is backed up by facts. And yours is....um. Fabricated bullshiit




More rubbish again. You've selectedly picked individual stats. Overall Liverpool were 9 points up in Rodgers' first season from the previous one and a higher points total than last season with Klopp in charge.

Agger really struggled with injuries, he made mistakes, dropped out of favour under Rodgers (yes it appears they didn't see eye to eye), and was desperate for a move and now he has retired because of his injuries so he was on his way out anyway which is a shame.


Ahhhh selective stats? Was it selective when we lost 6-1 to stoke? Or when he spent £291million on what exactly? When we signed Benteke the season after posting the 2nd lowest amount of crosses?

have you tried using logic or facts to back up an argument? Or is that why you moved to the U.S. To feel smarter than the average redneck.

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