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Originally Posted By Welsh_Wizard
Sahko is still better than Lovren, Klaven, Gomez, Lucas, Matip


That is why we have a problem with attempts to loan him out.



The thing you've said there. Isn't true.

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Of course he is.

Lucas is a midfielder.

Gomez is vastly inproven.

Lovren - Everyone was critical about since he signed.

Klaven is basically Toures replacement.

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and last season no one wanted sakho in the team until feb/march when his form picked up a bit until he got banned , lovren has turned into a real good defender and a leader , unlike sakho who clearly isnt a leader his attitude issues prove this .

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Of course Sahko is A leader.

He was the youngest ever captain at PSG.

WAIT until the next Lovren c*&kup then I will come back to your real good defender and leader comment

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Originally Posted By Welsh_Wizard
Of course Sahko is A leader.

He was the youngest ever captain at PSG.

WAIT until the next Lovren c*&kup then I will come back to your real good defender and leader comment
leader really havent seen that at liverpool , and sakho hasnt f uked up many many many times ???.

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Originally Posted By Welsh_Wizard
Of course Sahko is A leader.

He was the youngest ever captain at PSG.

WAIT until the next Lovren c*&kup then I will come back to your real good defender and leader comment


What kind of leader gets sent home from the U.S. For poor behaviour ?

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By Welsh_Wizard
Of course Sahko is A leader.

He was the youngest ever captain at PSG.

WAIT until the next Lovren c*&kup then I will come back to your real good defender and leader comment


What kind of leader gets sent home from the U.S. For poor behaviour ?
hear hear !!!

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Originally Posted By TheKopProphet
Klavan and Matip have only played a couple of games - so I don't think there is enough data for anyone on here to write them off or declare them better or worse than Sakho. Sakho is a clown-prince - capable of being man of the match or the goat any given week. Gomez looked very promising in the few games before his injury and is well worth another chance.
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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
It looks to me that both the Sakho and Sturridge issues have been created by the management, but I don't know if it's by FSG or Klopp or both, but it's clearly been driven from the management level rather than the players. As far as I can see the players want to play but they're being messed around to a quite unusual extent by the management, for some reason or other and the timing of this is just ridiculous.


I actually agree with you Herc and it remains to be seen if this hard line stance with high value players can work in this league. It's all very well doing this in Germany where Klopp has built squads from nobodies but the feeling I get from a far is that his man management skills may need a change (or at least be toned down with these modern day babies) of direction or we are going to have a Chelsea under Mourhino on our hands pretty quick.

I still don't get the Sturridge line at all. This is a genuine question to those who live football 24/7- How many CF's at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?

I'm struggling to think of many. Do Higuain, Tevez or Aguero do it?


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Originally Posted By Top4
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
It looks to me that both the Sakho and Sturridge issues have been created by the management, but I don't know if it's by FSG or Klopp or both, but it's clearly been driven from the management level rather than the players. As far as I can see the players want to play but they're being messed around to a quite unusual extent by the management, for some reason or other and the timing of this is just ridiculous.


I actually agree with you Herc and it remains to be seen if this hard line stance with high value players can work in this league. It's all very well doing this in Germany where Klopp has built squads from nobodies but the feeling I get from a far is that his man management skills may need a change (or at least be toned down with these modern day babies) of direction or we are going to have a Chelsea under Mourhino on our hands pretty quick.

I still don't get the Sturridge line at all. This is a genuine question to those who live football 24/7- How many CF's at the top rung are expected to track back, do the defensive work of a DMF and then be in the right place to break away and score as a striker?

I'm struggling to think of many. Do Higuain, Tevez or Aguero do it?

The Sakho one sounds like his own making and Klopp wasn't going to tolerate which you can't really blame him for.

I think Klopp is looking for our striker to press the opposition defence rather than track back. Tevez is a bit of a livewire I could see him not giving the defender's a moments piece. Suarez as well, but these players are exceptions I feel.

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