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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
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When you take the Sakho and Sturridge fiascos together so late in the transfer window and already 3 games into the new season you have to ask wtf is going on here? It's not as if we're brimming with top talent in either defense or attack that we can afford to be shooting ourselves in the foot like this, we could also do without these distractions at the start of a new season, and yet both fiascos are initiated by the management, either FSG or Klopp or both? This shiit absolutely beggars belief.


How is this a late fiasco? When was the last time that Sturridge was first choice? When was the last time he could be relied on? The last time he made a significant contribution was when he had Suarez and sterling either side him.

Sahko has been pretty awful since he arrived he hasn't improved much. Get caught out a lot. Plays like traore on steroids and misses finals for taking diet pills.

Klopp has decided to build the team around player he can rely on. That shouldn't be a surprise. It's how it should be.

Well I can't agree on your assessment of the players, especially Sturridge who is generally regarded as one of the most gifted strikers in the PL. My point relates more to the ridiculous timing of this shiit. If the management wanted rid of either or both of them why didn't they put them on the transfer list earlier in the window? Do we need this silly shiit to be happening 3 games into the season? Do we need the distraction of all this now? Is this good management?

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
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When you take the Sakho and Sturridge fiascos together so late in the transfer window and already 3 games into the new season you have to ask wtf is going on here? It's not as if we're brimming with top talent in either defense or attack that we can afford to be shooting ourselves in the foot like this, we could also do without these distractions at the start of a new season, and yet both fiascos are initiated by the management, either FSG or Klopp or both? This shiit absolutely beggars belief.


How is this a late fiasco? When was the last time that Sturridge was first choice? When was the last time he could be relied on? The last time he made a significant contribution was when he had Suarez and sterling either side him.

Sahko has been pretty awful since he arrived he hasn't improved much. Get caught out a lot. Plays like traore on steroids and misses finals for taking diet pills.

Klopp has decided to build the team around player he can rely on. That shouldn't be a surprise. It's how it should be.

Well I can't agree on your assessment of the players, especially Sturridge who is generally regarded as one of the most gifted strikers in the PL. My point relates more to the ridiculous timing of this shiit. If the management wanted rid of either or both of them why didn't they put them on the transfer list earlier in the window? Do we need this silly shiit to be happening 3 games into the season? Do we need the distraction of all this now? Is this good management?


It might not be that easy. Look at wilshere. He's been made available in the last 24 hours. Things change all the time. With Sahko we don't k ow that he wasn't told to leave after the trip to America. He certainly hasn't been near the team since then. It may have been leaked in the last day or so to generate some interest or force him to go.

With Sturridge. It cannot be a shock that he isn't first choice. He can't string 3 games together. We need a reliable striker. I'd like it to be Sturridge. But his body won't allow it.
So origi firmino will be ahead of him. Ings doesn't stand a chance either sadly.

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
When you take the Sakho and Sturridge fiascos together so late in the transfer window and already 3 games into the new season you have to ask wtf is going on here? It's not as if we're brimming with top talent in either defense or attack that we can afford to be shooting ourselves in the foot like this, we could also do without these distractions at the start of a new season, and yet both fiascos are initiated by the management, either FSG or Klopp or both? This shiit absolutely beggars belief.


How is this a late fiasco? When was the last time that Sturridge was first choice? When was the last time he could be relied on? The last time he made a significant contribution was when he had Suarez and sterling either side him.

Sahko has been pretty awful since he arrived he hasn't improved much. Get caught out a lot. Plays like traore on steroids and misses finals for taking diet pills.

Klopp has decided to build the team around player he can rely on. That shouldn't be a surprise. It's how it should be.

Well I can't agree on your assessment of the players, especially Sturridge who is generally regarded as one of the most gifted strikers in the PL. My point relates more to the ridiculous timing of this shiit. If the management wanted rid of either or both of them why didn't they put them on the transfer list earlier in the window? Do we need this silly shiit to be happening 3 games into the season? Do we need the distraction of all this now? Is this good management?


Then you obviously didn't read what he put, he made no criticism of Sturridge's ability, just his injury record. Surely that's not in doubt?

As for the distraction, that was brought on by the players, not the management. Sturridge spoke out and Klopp dropped him. Maybe Sakho has been on the transfer list, just rejected any offers until someone suitable for him makes a bid? And I don't believe something like this will actually effect the other players, maybe just the fickle fans.

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No matter if you agree or disagree with herc, the points he has just made above are spot on. There is 3 games gone and this BS is starting now when it shouldve been dealt with weeks ago. It just screams bad management from both the manager, transfer committee and owners. Thats not a dig at them its just the truth because they are involved with buying/ selling players.

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No matter if you agree or disagree with herc, the points he has just made above are spot on. There is 3 games gone and this BS is starting now when it shouldve been dealt with weeks ago. It just screams bad management from both the manager, transfer committee and owners. Thats not a dig at them its just the truth because they are involved with buying/ selling players.


We aren't the only team who has these issues.

Arsenal waited until the last day to sign players they needed and now loan out all their cover in chambers and wilshere
Man Utd have the whole schweinsteiger thing going on.
Chelsea have bid for about 37 defenders and are gonna end up with a player they sold and a left back rejected by Bolton.
Spurs haven't spent much and they've made a profit. But when Kane doesn't score they don't win.
And hull are hull.

Every team has problems. Sahko and Sturridge are ours right now. At least balotelli is gone.

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Originally Posted By Prophet
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When you take the Sakho and Sturridge fiascos together so late in the transfer window and already 3 games into the new season you have to ask wtf is going on here? It's not as if we're brimming with top talent in either defense or attack that we can afford to be shooting ourselves in the foot like this, we could also do without these distractions at the start of a new season, and yet both fiascos are initiated by the management, either FSG or Klopp or both? This shiit absolutely beggars belief.


How is this a late fiasco? When was the last time that Sturridge was first choice? When was the last time he could be relied on? The last time he made a significant contribution was when he had Suarez and sterling either side him.

Sahko has been pretty awful since he arrived he hasn't improved much. Get caught out a lot. Plays like traore on steroids and misses finals for taking diet pills.

Klopp has decided to build the team around player he can rely on. That shouldn't be a surprise. It's how it should be.

Well I can't agree on your assessment of the players, especially Sturridge who is generally regarded as one of the most gifted strikers in the PL. My point relates more to the ridiculous timing of this shiit. If the management wanted rid of either or both of them why didn't they put them on the transfer list earlier in the window? Do we need this silly shiit to be happening 3 games into the season? Do we need the distraction of all this now? Is this good management?


Then you obviously didn't read what he put, he made no criticism of Sturridge's ability, just his injury record. Surely that's not in doubt?

As for the distraction, that was brought on by the players, not the management. Sturridge spoke out and Klopp dropped him. Maybe Sakho has been on the transfer list, just rejected any offers until someone suitable for him makes a bid? And I don't believe something like this will actually effect the other players, maybe just the fickle fans.

You're missing my main point here Prophet, if they wanted rid of Sturridge and or Sakho, why wasn't it dealt with before the last day/s of the window? It looks like total incompetence, and disregarding your snide remark about fickle fans, I'd contend this kind of public spat between the management and two members of the squad can have an unsettling effect on the players especially the younger members of the squad. It's also embarrassing for the club as a whole to have to witness such a public show of incompetence.

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Why is it incompetent to not want a player? Especially players who either can't stay fit or miss training and et sent home from America.

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It's just Sakho they want rid of, I believe - Sturridge was only dropped, no? As I said (regarding Sakho) maybe he has been on the transfer list but offers from clubs he'd pick haven't come in?

Well good then, to be perfectly honest - these impressionable young'uns can learn early, mess about and you have no place at Liverpool. You just seem to be jumping at any chance to berate FSG or Klopp.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles


Klopp has decided to build the team around player he can rely on. That shouldn't be a surprise. It's how it should be.


nail on the head


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Meanwhile, back onto the OP topic. whistle

The Merseyside club have already accepted one loan offer from Stoke, but the player turned the move down.

It is understood Klopp still expects Sakho to have a big future at Liverpool, but wants him to spend the season playing regular football at a top-flight clu
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Now can we all calm down, wind our necks in, 'ave a bevvy and you can all have one of my special 'coconut' snouts to chill out on whilst spreading some man luuuurve on 'ere. laugh

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