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They may be his first choices Herc?

If Rafa believes Wijnaldum is so talented he could play anywhere, we'd be wise to listen. While he didn't sign Gigi, few players managed comments of such high praise while he was at Liverpool. Sure, it could have been a way of drumming up interest, but both Spurs and Everton had shown interest already.

Obviously he can "play," but he's not been electric for Newcastle. He's played out wide, in attacking midfield and just behind the striker. For Holland though, he plays in central midfield alongside Strootman. How much more progressive is a Liverpool team having him sat in midfield scoring 11+ goals a season, than Allen, who has managed 4 in over 90 appearances, Henderson, who has 19 in over 155 games, Lallana 9 in just over 55, or Milner 5 in nearly 30 games?

Wijnaldum is arguably the most progressive signing we'll have made if he joins. Sure, he'll not be given as much time as a player from abroad, but you're potentially looking at a "front 5" of Wijnaldum, Coutinho, Firmino, Mane and Sturridge, in which Gigi can look to bring the ball through the midfield, while also contribute goals and assists.

Our "back 5" would be Karius, Clyne, Matip Lovren and Moreno, with Can able to play more withdrawn or more progressive based on the team we're playing.

That's quite exciting.

Completely agree there JJ!

Well put!

Can is not a defensive midfielder.

so coutinho and firmino in the middle, at times deeper, in a 4123/4141 that's more rodgers total football than heavy metal football to me? I'm not sure what makes you think wijnaldum will score 11 goals from central midfield than Can. I get he's versatile, coutinho and lallana are versatile, but I doubt people are judging any of their value at all on their versatility. might be useful for the odd fa cup tie, matip and wijnaldum in midfield if we have injures, but otherwise I'm not sure we'd highly rate versatility. we struggled to break down sides under rodgers you have to remember.

Rodgers ended so long ago. Comparing him to Klopp is like comparing Uniteds choice between Steve Bruce and Mourinho. There is a gulf in difference in nigh on everything that makes them a manager. Rodgers was a tactics coach who facilitated individual talent. Klopp is a man management coach who coaches teams. Why can't we look at the team now without reverting this comparison and that comparison. Can, given that he has played both as a central midfielder and a centre half in his time at the club, and as the deepest man in our midfield, is by definition our defensive midfielder.

They might be wilkij, but there was some evidence that he was hunting further up the food chain a couple of weeks ago. However I accept he does like to mess around with the little bitty prospects all right, and that was probably the reason FSG are paying him, what is it around 7m per year? they’ve done the sums and it works out cheaper than signing proven top quality players. The fact that we might finish 5th,6th, or 7th doesn’t seem to bother them, but of course we already knew that.

All we get are speculative reports, most of which will be untrue and made up to sell papers. The only person the will really know is Klopp himself.

You are right that he has more a reputation for building teams than spanking loads on 'galacticos' or fan pleasers as we should call them. That might suit FSG but it also suits me as a good team is always better than a bunch of individuals. Whether that ultimately will work over here remains to be seen but Wenger hasn't done too bad out of that approach.

Yes but at least he has been able to sign the likes of Özil and Sanches, which hardly seems likely to happen at LFC, under FSG's stewardship.

That's just two players in how many years? Before that their record signing was Reyes. They got Xhaka butbhes not at the same level for me.

Yes Can is a holding midfielder, a holding midfielder whose talents lie further up the pitch. he could never play the role gerrard did in his latter years with the club. but if you're asking him to be one of two deeper players like dembele then that's fine.