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He's been inconsistent in a cr@p Newcastle side. Nothing to say he will be the same for us. And going by your logic, should we sell Coutinho as he's inconsistent?

I want us to buy good players, which he is. He might turn out to be utter shitte but so could anyone. He has good stats and scored more than any of our midfield lest term which is what we need.

coutinho has had a very good period of consistency pre villa and surely you'd trust him to combine in good areas with firmino and mane perhaps this season, I wouldn't even really put his performance in the final down to inconsistency, I don't see where 'my logic' has illustrated that we shouldn't sign players completely based on any sign of inconsistency

we shall dub this the season of signing goalscorers then

not anyone can turn out like utter shy you can play the percentages

FSG meddling going with a 30 year old defender as cover from a mid to basement team from the Bundesliga, probably because he'll be on a paltry wage compared to what Skrtel and Kolo were on! Will he provide competition for what we already have? I doubt it!

Then we are going for another attacking midfielder this time from a relegated club, paying almost twice the price that club paid a year ago!

There is no rhyme nor reason with our transfers...we are crying out for a set piece specialist. Milner's corner kicks are woeful and this season we have the likes of Matip who is decent with his head. We have to strengthen in the areas we have fallen down on and not taking advantage of set pieces is going to hurt us again!

Xabi Alonso knows the club, has bundles of experience that this team is most definitely lacking in and is a set piece specialist! GO GET XABI BACK!

Not sure how FSG are meddling with this defender? Surely going from their track record, they'd be buying a kid in the hope of him turning out good for the re-sale value?

Plus, the reports I've seen, Wijnaldom will be about £20m so not double the £14.5m they paid for him.

Alonso back would be good though, even just for a season.

Ragnar will probably be on half the wages that Kolo or Skrtel were on and if doesn't work out, i'm certain they'd recoup the transfer fee back...it's a big risk, i'd say in the same mold as the senseless Caulker loan deal!

We have too many Wijnaldum type players already. He doesn't take set pieces and his contribution in his one season was with a club that got relegated. Reading from what the Geordies have to say, he was very inconsistent!

Wijnaldum is a good signing. Captained psv to a title and can play anywhere in midfield. He has goals in him. He's fast and direct. I'm ok with it.

Just hope he doesn't cost the £27mil expected.


Klaven on the other hand looks to be another versatile defender. A quick fact finding mission shows that he started in midfield so should be a decent passer at least. Can also play left back, I hope he isn't the cover for Moreno
He also made his debut at 15 and Estonia debut at 17.

He has sotiris kyrgiakos feel about him.

The lad turns 31 this year, which is not that impressive.

Anyway, regardless of that I hope he turns out OK for us if he eventually signs. Ayre is probably stalling and trying to negotiate on his ferry ticket too.

That's 1st class travel for FSG...more like a pedalo!

He's going to be back up as Skrtel would've been so I'm OK with them cutting the wages of a back up player. Makes good sense to me.

As others have said, Wijnaldom is a versatile player, not just an AM type but has goals in him. As long as he doesn't come at the £27m that Newcastle want then I'm OK with it. And the whole Newcastle team was inconsistent so no surprise he was really and doesn't mean he will be for us.

Players with refined quality is it Torres? Well Rodgers like to try and sign players with refined quality, in the context of FSGs stewardship and look where it got him! I too as a football fan like refined technical quality, but I'm waiting nigh on thirty years for a league win! The thing about refined technical quality is you have to pay for it in both fee and wage, and FSG simply won't do that. Rodgers tried the impossible by balancing these two irreconcilable approaches and paid the inevitable price. Klopp does not use a refined quality approach, he's a blood and guts brute force, down the middle man, his style is to out gun, out run and over run the opposition. It didn't work too well in the three quarters of last season, but it might work this season, given that he has a preseason and signed some of his own selections albeit third and fourth choice it appears! (wage restrictions?) he should also be able to take advantage of no mid week football.