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We should give Newcastle lucas in exchange for wijnaldum. He isnt gonna play many games for us and rafa will welcome him into any team of his.
We have a lot of players at our disposal who we should be looking to ship out...Its beyond me as to why liverpool never swap players instead of playing ridiculous transfer fees for un-established players. I didnt want Mane, but we couldve gave 15 million and Ibe for him and i wouldve agreed with that. Theres plenty more deals we could do. Id like to see us have a go at sidgurrson off swansea. Allen + 10 million something like that.
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Why so many naive comments. Football isn't so simplistic. Lots of good players, talented players, promising players get relegated with poor clubs and managers. Relegated players often go on to better things with other clubs. For a good example - look no further than Danny Ings. I didn't hear this complaint when we signed him!!! Wijnaldum and Sissoko are both decent international players who could be a boon to other teams. Of course, it's possible that they don't work out - but you have that risk with any player. Danny Ings cost around £7million at a tribunal though didn't he? Big difference between paying that amount than £20million plus for Sissoko or Wijnaldum! Good players are good players though Chris no mattrvwhre they play and what happened to them. He got 11 goals last season in a struggling, sometimes [oops], Newcastle side which by my reckoning would've made him our second highest scorer. That report said somewhere between £15m and £20m so as long as it's no more would be worth a go. why do we keep thinking scoring goals for a poorer side is more impressive than scoring goals for say a mid table side? he's from holland, let's hope if we signed him he doesn't turn out like depay. if rodgers was making this signing I would not be happy and I'm certainly not if klopp is making it
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Why so many naive comments. Football isn't so simplistic. Lots of good players, talented players, promising players get relegated with poor clubs and managers. Relegated players often go on to better things with other clubs. For a good example - look no further than Danny Ings. I didn't hear this complaint when we signed him!!! Wijnaldum and Sissoko are both decent international players who could be a boon to other teams. Of course, it's possible that they don't work out - but you have that risk with any player. Danny Ings cost around £7million at a tribunal though didn't he? Big difference between paying that amount than £20million plus for Sissoko or Wijnaldum! Good players are good players though Chris no mattrvwhre they play and what happened to them. He got 11 goals last season in a struggling, sometimes [oops], Newcastle side which by my reckoning would've made him our second highest scorer. That report said somewhere between £15m and £20m so as long as it's no more would be worth a go. why do we keep thinking scoring goals for a poorer side is more impressive than scoring goals for say a mid table side? he's from holland, let's hope if we signed him he doesn't turn out like depay. if rodgers was making this signing I would not be happy and I'm certainly not if klopp is making it We seem to be constantly linked with players like this. I dont know much about him only when i seen him play he looked inconsistent. These players do well at clubs like Newcastle and southampton because the whole set up of the team is geared towards them. Players we buy sometimes wont fit into that system we play. We need more "team players" as opposed to individual skill.
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Why so many naive comments. Football isn't so simplistic. Lots of good players, talented players, promising players get relegated with poor clubs and managers. Relegated players often go on to better things with other clubs. For a good example - look no further than Danny Ings. I didn't hear this complaint when we signed him!!! Wijnaldum and Sissoko are both decent international players who could be a boon to other teams. Of course, it's possible that they don't work out - but you have that risk with any player. Danny Ings cost around £7million at a tribunal though didn't he? Big difference between paying that amount than £20million plus for Sissoko or Wijnaldum! Good players are good players though Chris no mattrvwhre they play and what happened to them. He got 11 goals last season in a struggling, sometimes [oops], Newcastle side which by my reckoning would've made him our second highest scorer. That report said somewhere between £15m and £20m so as long as it's no more would be worth a go. why do we keep thinking scoring goals for a poorer side is more impressive than scoring goals for say a mid table side? he's from holland, let's hope if we signed him he doesn't turn out like depay. if rodgers was making this signing I would not be happy and I'm certainly not if klopp is making it 11 goals from midfield isn't bad no matter where you play. Like I said, I think those goals would've made him our second highest scorer last season with more than Coutinho and the same as Firminho(?). Not bad for me. You say he's from Holland like it's a bad thing and like no Dutch players ever succeed. He's had a year in the EPL and proved to be an OK player if not spectacular. Comparing to Depay is a bit off the mark too as he'll come for nearly £15m less too. My only concern is that we end up paying top, top money for him as there will be better about for that. But for anything in the reported £15m - £20m it's not too bad for me.
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Has a bit of aggression and can shift his ass, no Zidane, but would suit Klopp's style of play. You could say we're prospecting again, but since we seem unwilling to pay the wages to our first and second choices, what options do we have?
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Has a bit of aggression and can shift his ass, no Zidane, but would suit Klopp's style of play. You could say we're prospecting again, but since we seem unwilling to pay the wages to our first and second choices, what options do we have? henderson fits klopps style of play should we keep him? seems like a lot of players fit klopps style of play. I'm not saying he is a bad player, every player has their qualities. but like ambitious said we need more team players not individual skill, I don't care wijnandulm can score goals, Ibe could score goals we got rid of him.
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Good players are good players though Chris no mattrvwhre they play and what happened to them. He got 11 goals last season in a struggling, sometimes [oops], Newcastle side which by my reckoning would've made him our second highest scorer. That report said somewhere between £15m and £20m so as long as it's no more would be worth a go.
why do we keep thinking scoring goals for a poorer side is more impressive than scoring goals for say a mid table side? he's from holland, let's hope if we signed him he doesn't turn out like depay. if rodgers was making this signing I would not be happy and I'm certainly not if klopp is making it 11 goals from midfield isn't bad no matter where you play. Like I said, I think those goals would've made him our second highest scorer last season with more than Coutinho and the same as Firminho(?). Not bad for me. You say he's from Holland like it's a bad thing and like no Dutch players ever succeed. He's had a year in the EPL and proved to be an OK player if not spectacular. Comparing to Depay is a bit off the mark too as he'll come for nearly £15m less too. My only concern is that we end up paying top, top money for him as there will be better about for that. But for anything in the reported £15m - £20m it's not too bad for me. you're reading it in the wrong tone, I don't see how it's off the mark as it would require him making a step up moving to a bigger club like depay.
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New Center Back arriving today, I recall being impressed by Ausburgs defence against us last yr so should be a solid CB coming in. Ragnar pretty cool name too.
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New Center Back arriving today, I recall being impressed by Ausburgs defence against us last yr so should be a solid CB coming in. Ragnar pretty cool name too. yes experience coming in, not sure he's a good a passer as sakho, will look to go long more often I think. for 4.2 million it should be good business, for saying he's such a no nonsense defender like matip, (I don't know if it will be the same) but his disciplinary record is impressive.
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Come on wilkij, Herc do you really want wijnaldum as cover for coutinho? aren't we just asking to become more inconsistent?
by bulking the squad with players who lack refined quality. having said that he does fairly suit a high intensive game
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