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Just though I'd summarise a few of the main points raised, with a few of my own comments.
A big concern is about our central midfield. People on here suggesting that we need a £30m midfielder to replace Henderson as our mainstay. Also subsequent comments on the unlikeliness of this, given Henderson is captain. A lot are advocating a sale, over benching him.
From an overview of Klopp's time at Dortmund, club captain Kehl had multiple injuries and remained as "club captain." He made it clear in his second season, after the previous captain left the club, that Kehl was to be club captain, and refused to change this despite his limited game time in nearly every season. Just because he's club captain, shouldn't mean he has to play every game, it is just a title. Back to the need for a top midfielder, I agree that long-term we do, but right now, I think building the squad with impressive young talent in midfield is considered a better agenda. With that in mind, Klopp already has Henderson, Milner and Can bought into his style and capable of pressing as he likes. It is highly unlikely any of that trio will leave. Clearly, this is a big subject, and it wouldn't surprise me if another player was made captain and Henderson still retained.
People suggesting that our strikeforce looks weak without Benteke and Balotelli and no incomings, as Sturridge should neither be first choice, nor replaced competently enough by Ings or Origi if injuries hit.
As I posted, I do think we might be in for one if both strikers leave. I expect them to leave. I would not be at all surprised if a striker signed, but it will be down to options come the last week of July at the very earliest before a target is sought and acquire, likely into August if difficulties arrive in the multiple positions we've been chasing players in. I think Klopp has a card or two close to his chest, with one eye still on keeping players happy. I would not be surprised if we "appeared" to be in for a lot of top players, only to sign a seemingly unavailable talent once other teams are out of the race having spent money already.
Henderson is no SG but he is a very decent player, argueably our best CM right now. If we could buy Pogba and the likes, then why not sell him, otherwise there is no need, better we replace Leiva or even Allen. Some guys like gnp want to replace the whole team, that kind of thing happens only in dreams. If henderson is our best CM right now well then we can write off the whole lot of next season. Henderson is useless. I will never fault his hard work and his running but other than that all he does is pass the ball sideways and backwards for 90 mins. Cant shoot, no passing range, no command, and not the greatest at tackling. I dont think ive ever witnessed him go by a player in the midfield if my memory serves me right. Its time for him to go, he hasnt improved to what we need. Replace him and all the best in the future. But if hes still there next season and is our captain we are f*ked. Sunderland is his level and maybe he should try go back there.
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If henderson is our best CM right now well then we can write off the whole lot of next season. Henderson is useless. I will never fault his hard work and his running but other than that all he does is pass the ball sideways and backwards for 90 mins. Cant shoot, no passing range, no command, and not the greatest at tackling. I dont think ive ever witnessed him go by a player in the midfield if my memory serves me right. Its time for him to go, he hasnt improved to what we need. Replace him and all the best in the future. But if hes still there next season and is our captain we are f*ked. Sunderland is his level and maybe he should try go back there. A little melodramatic in my opinion. A prevalent and recurring comment but a few years ago, was that Henderson's sending off against City in the final minutes was the biggest reason for our end of season capitulation towards the title. I'm not saying that he has maintained and improved on that form, I'm just showing that he has been a vital contributor towards a title, and that experience can be valuable in making a player and captain.
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If henderson is our best CM right now well then we can write off the whole lot of next season. Henderson is useless. I will never fault his hard work and his running but other than that all he does is pass the ball sideways and backwards for 90 mins. Cant shoot, no passing range, no command, and not the greatest at tackling. I dont think ive ever witnessed him go by a player in the midfield if my memory serves me right. Its time for him to go, he hasnt improved to what we need. Replace him and all the best in the future. But if hes still there next season and is our captain we are f*ked. Sunderland is his level and maybe he should try go back there. A little melodramatic in my opinion. A prevalent and recurring comment but a few years ago, was that Henderson's sending off against City in the final minutes was the biggest reason for our end of season capitulation towards the title. I'm not saying that he has maintained and improved on that form, I'm just showing that he has been a vital contributor towards a title, and that experience can be valuable in making a player and captain. He will never be a proper captain. Ever since Gerrard went and henderson took over he has been trying to act like a hardman all of a sudden, like the incident with costa. As a players he is sunderland level, as a captain hes a complete joke. Remember balotelli taking the ball for the penalty? Henderson has no backbone or authority. It wasnt all that long ago think 4 seasons when we were giving him to fulham in exchange for clint dempsy. Watch him in game, he cant go by anyone and passes the ball sideways for 90 mins. The few diagonal balls he does play towards the corner flag end up going out for throws. We need a leader and henderson isnt that.
Last edited by Ambitious1; 09/07/16 02:12 PM.
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If henderson is our best CM right now well then we can write off the whole lot of next season. Henderson is useless. I will never fault his hard work and his running but other than that all he does is pass the ball sideways and backwards for 90 mins. Cant shoot, no passing range, no command, and not the greatest at tackling. I dont think ive ever witnessed him go by a player in the midfield if my memory serves me right. Its time for him to go, he hasnt improved to what we need. Replace him and all the best in the future. But if hes still there next season and is our captain we are f*ked. Sunderland is his level and maybe he should try go back there. A little melodramatic in my opinion. A prevalent and recurring comment but a few years ago, was that Henderson's sending off against City in the final minutes was the biggest reason for our end of season capitulation towards the title. I'm not saying that he has maintained and improved on that form, I'm just showing that he has been a vital contributor towards a title, and that experience can be valuable in making a player and captain. his absence could have been and probably was a contributing factor. however not to forget what team and players was he surrounded by. I seriously hope u dont mean that we challenged just cause of henderson or we lost cause of his absence
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football is fuckingg cruel
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