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Midfield solutions
Kante carvelho or Danilo
Pastore Isco or dahoud
Sane , moura or coric
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So you want to bench the club captain?
Out of interest, where does Hendo fall short, what does he lack?
Who would you replace him with? nah. dont bench him. find a new club for him
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dont forget hendos injury is a heel arch problem i believe and not fixable so for a player whos main point in his cv is hes a runner,harasser and chaser ad to that hes had a knee problem too i cant see hendo getting any better than we have seen i can however see him go down hill our mf has been fragile for years it needs serious steriods pumped into it player wise and is a lot of the reason our defence has been so crap too i think we have too many runners ,harassers and chasers. we should try something else for once 
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i bloody hope finding a new leader and selling hendo asap is somewhere in the top priorities for Klopp
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Just though I'd summarise a few of the main points raised, with a few of my own comments.
A big concern is about our central midfield. People on here suggesting that we need a £30m midfielder to replace Henderson as our mainstay. Also subsequent comments on the unlikeliness of this, given Henderson is captain. A lot are advocating a sale, over benching him.
From an overview of Klopp's time at Dortmund, club captain Kehl had multiple injuries and remained as "club captain." He made it clear in his second season, after the previous captain left the club, that Kehl was to be club captain, and refused to change this despite his limited game time in nearly every season. Just because he's club captain, shouldn't mean he has to play every game, it is just a title. Back to the need for a top midfielder, I agree that long-term we do, but right now, I think building the squad with impressive young talent in midfield is considered a better agenda. With that in mind, Klopp already has Henderson, Milner and Can bought into his style and capable of pressing as he likes. It is highly unlikely any of that trio will leave. Clearly, this is a big subject, and it wouldn't surprise me if another player was made captain and Henderson still retained.
People suggesting that our strikeforce looks weak without Benteke and Balotelli and no incomings, as Sturridge should neither be first choice, nor replaced competently enough by Ings or Origi if injuries hit.
As I posted, I do think we might be in for one if both strikers leave. I expect them to leave. I would not be at all surprised if a striker signed, but it will be down to options come the last week of July at the very earliest before a target is sought and acquire, likely into August if difficulties arrive in the multiple positions we've been chasing players in. I think Klopp has a card or two close to his chest, with one eye still on keeping players happy. I would not be surprised if we "appeared" to be in for a lot of top players, only to sign a seemingly unavailable talent once other teams are out of the race having spent money already.
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Maybe Kehl stayed as club captain because of his seniority and leadership skills?. Have you seen a Henderson interview? He has the charisma of a walnut and struggles to even talk. Putting aside his obvious shortcomings as a footballer, I cannot imagine what Rodgers was thinking when he made JH club captain!!!
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I wish the echo would stop promoting statistical sources in the respect that, (such as most chances created since klopp took over, most tackles won of any other pl club, only spurs have scored more goals since his arrival) yes we know we have a good/decent team and klopp works them very hard - as the sevilla manager said we play pure football, but despite a consistent period pre villa thrashing, the club still finished 8th, and it certainly hasn't felt like we've created the most chances of any pl club!...
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Maybe Kehl stayed as club captain because of his seniority and leadership skills?. Have you seen a Henderson interview? He has the charisma of a walnut and struggles to even talk. Putting aside his obvious shortcomings as a footballer, I cannot imagine what Rodgers was thinking when he made JH club captain!!! sums it up really
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Maybe Kehl stayed as club captain because of his seniority and leadership skills?. Have you seen a Henderson interview? He has the charisma of a walnut and struggles to even talk. Putting aside his obvious shortcomings as a footballer, I cannot imagine what Rodgers was thinking when he made JH club captain!!! sums it up really Not like we are overran with players with Captain material ATM, so not much choice. Wasn't JH vice captain under Gerrard? I guess BR expected Gerrard to stay, so captain for next few years even if not always playing, so when Gerard left he had to make vice captain JH captain.
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Just though I'd summarise a few of the main points raised, with a few of my own comments.
A big concern is about our central midfield. People on here suggesting that we need a £30m midfielder to replace Henderson as our mainstay. Also subsequent comments on the unlikeliness of this, given Henderson is captain. A lot are advocating a sale, over benching him.
From an overview of Klopp's time at Dortmund, club captain Kehl had multiple injuries and remained as "club captain." He made it clear in his second season, after the previous captain left the club, that Kehl was to be club captain, and refused to change this despite his limited game time in nearly every season. Just because he's club captain, shouldn't mean he has to play every game, it is just a title. Back to the need for a top midfielder, I agree that long-term we do, but right now, I think building the squad with impressive young talent in midfield is considered a better agenda. With that in mind, Klopp already has Henderson, Milner and Can bought into his style and capable of pressing as he likes. It is highly unlikely any of that trio will leave. Clearly, this is a big subject, and it wouldn't surprise me if another player was made captain and Henderson still retained.
People suggesting that our strikeforce looks weak without Benteke and Balotelli and no incomings, as Sturridge should neither be first choice, nor replaced competently enough by Ings or Origi if injuries hit.
As I posted, I do think we might be in for one if both strikers leave. I expect them to leave. I would not be at all surprised if a striker signed, but it will be down to options come the last week of July at the very earliest before a target is sought and acquire, likely into August if difficulties arrive in the multiple positions we've been chasing players in. I think Klopp has a card or two close to his chest, with one eye still on keeping players happy. I would not be surprised if we "appeared" to be in for a lot of top players, only to sign a seemingly unavailable talent once other teams are out of the race having spent money already.
Henderson is no SG but he is a very decent player, argueably our best CM right now. If we could buy Pogba and the likes, then why not sell him, otherwise there is no need, better we replace Leiva or even Allen. Some guys like gnp want to replace the whole team, that kind of thing happens only in dreams.
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