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Originally Posted By Chris2402
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[I think he's a good addition, If he joins he will add something different to our midfield, pace, power, unpredictability, goals (1 in 3 average for last 2 years for Southampton). He is also an impact player, he came on against us with Southampton 0-2 down and turned the game around with Wanyama to win 3-2 scoring 2 goals and running us ragged, I'm sure that's when Klopp & Co thought we could use him.



I would hope that we scouted him for longer than 45mins to warrant spending £30million plus! Don't forget he also missed a penalty in that cameo against us!


Yep, I'm sure they scouted him more than that !!!! his stats are good for assists and goals, but seeing a player perform against you/your team gives so much, you can see how you could make use of them and improve your team.

I remember when we signed Crouch, I'm sure it was Rafa who said that we could not defend against him when he played against us for Southampton (our feeder club!!!!), so he thought he would be a good addition for Liverpool as he gives other teams that same problem. Now Crouch was not what I'd call a 'Rafa type player', but Rafa saw the benefits he gave the team and signed him.

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I would hope that we scouted him for longer than 45mins to warrant spending £30million plus! Don't forget he also missed a penalty in that cameo against us!


Mane missed the penalty at 0-2 down, then went onto score 2 more goals after, so this shows allot about his mentality also, he did not put his head down and hide after missing, he got chances and took them, this is part of the mentality we missed in the Euro final second half when our players disappeared and did not fight.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Right. So who has moved during the Euro's to anyone of any note while they're playing?

Since when have we signed anyone of any note, unfortunately we're not in that competition, we compete with the mid table outfits for mid table misfits while paying top table table fees for prospects, to save a few miserable quid on wages, while slipping back into mid table status ourselves!!! How stupid is that approach? And you keep making excuses for this Shyte. Simply put wilkij there's no excuse that can excuse this Shyte it's inexcusable.

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Right. So who has moved during the Euro's to anyone of any note while they're playing?

Since when have we signed anyone of any note, unfortunately we're not in that competition, we compete with the mid table outfits for mid table misfits while paying top table table fees for prospects, to save a few miserable quid on wages, while slipping back into mid table status ourselves!!! How stupid is that approach? And you keep making excuses for this Shyte. Simply put wilkij there's no excuse that can excuse this Shyte it's inexcusable.


I've not made any excuses for our transfer policy so stop making shitte up. What I was saying is true and not much business has been done while the two tournaments were/are going. There never is and there wasn't when the WC was on two years ago.

Look, I get you're not happy because every fukking thread you post in comes down to the same blah blah followed by a silly poem. I'm not a massive fan of our previous transfer policy as it's yielded very little success. But after appointing Klopp, who will be no one's puppet, I believe this will change and we will buy who the manager wants. You can chose to believe otherwise and probably will as is your prerogative.

But I wouldn't expect the £50m plus superstars to be lined up (even if we could afford them) as Klopp isn't that type of manager. He's never been a big spender and has always bought smart and made a TEAM to play his way, a little like Wenger. Whether that approach works is debatable in the EPL but if not he'll be binned and the next man will come in.

Like it or not, that is how it is and how it will be.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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Right. So who has moved during the Euro's to anyone of any note while they're playing?

Since when have we signed anyone of any note, unfortunately we're not in that competition, we compete with the mid table outfits for mid table misfits while paying top table table fees for prospects, to save a few miserable quid on wages, while slipping back into mid table status ourselves!!! How stupid is that approach? And you keep making excuses for this Shyte. Simply put wilkij there's no excuse that can excuse this Shyte it's inexcusable.


I've not made any excuses for our transfer policy so stop making shitte up. What I was saying is true and not much business has been done while the two tournaments were/are going. There never is and there wasn't when the WC was on two years ago.

Look, I get you're not happy because every fukking thread you post in comes down to the same blah blah followed by a silly poem. I'm not a massive fan of our previous transfer policy as it's yielded very little success. But after appointing Klopp, who will be no one's puppet, I believe this will change and we will buy who the manager wants. You can chose to believe otherwise and probably will as is your prerogative.

But I wouldn't expect the £50m plus superstars to be lined up (even if we could afford them) as Klopp isn't that type of manager. He's never been a big spender and has always bought smart and made a TEAM to play his way, a little like Wenger. Whether that approach works is debatable in the EPL but if not he'll be binned and the next man will come in.

Like it or not, that is how it is and how it will be.


Klopps biggest signing in terms of transfer fee previous to liverpool was mhitaryan i believe who was bought for 19 million. We might not be getting the 50 million superstar as you say, and i agree with you sometimes we have to be realistic, but 30 million Mane and then the other few players we will more than like sign for 10 million each equals up to 50 million +.

The transfer fee is shockingly overpriced and it seems like liverpool are the only team stupid enough to pay these fees. You can take chelsea and city out of that frame they have money to burn and even Utd to some extent. I dont see arsenal spurs or everton or even southampton overpaying for sh*t so you can see peoples concerns.

Just because some club throws a price at you doesnt mean you have to sign him. Especially just because he plays for southampton as well.

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Of course I can see peoples concerns. I'm not over the moon by the fee paid either.

BUT, Klopp, our manager, a man who's managed at the top level of our sport, seems to want him. Why is that not good enough? It's OK to be concerned, especially with our past record, but for me this is a clean slate with a new manager who I trust will be good at picking the players he wants.

I know certain posters will come back with 'was it a Klopp signing or an FSG/committee signing' as is usual. But as I've said about 5 times now, Klopp is no one's puppet. He's too experienced and strong to be and if you remember, there were reports back last summer saying he didn't fancy the project so I believe he and he alone is the one who says who comes and goes.

Being concerned is fair enough but people just need to relax a little and give Klopp and HIS new players a chance. What other choice do we have apart from moaning on a forum?

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I think its fair to now say Liverpool (one of worlds biggest football clubs) now cannot compete with other teams in the PL. We cannot attract any big named players anymore and its a shame. I understand all your valid points about Mane and possibly what he could bring to the team but even at that if hes successful in any way, he will be sold to another team for profit.

We have transformed into a selling team and a team thats build upon buying 10 players and hoping at least 2 of them are successful, but this method doesnt always work in todays football. I must admit i absolutely f*king love klopp as our manager but we havent attracted any big names or shown credible interest in terms of enquirers and bids for players. I know there was Gotze but that never seemed concrete. This is a massive gamble for FSG and if we dont do well even until December we could see them been forced out by the fans. Personally id love to see the back of them. I dont think they know even a required level for running a football club.

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I think this 'selling club' is a bit of a myth. The big three we've sold are Torres, Suarez and Sterling. It's not like we're a revolving door of selling players for massive profits. And let's not forget, that money has been re-invested (badly I know).

The key is being successful and I think we've now got a manager that can bring us some success. Those three mentioned above all went 'to win things'. Sterling obviously went for more money but no team would've held onto to Suarez once Barca came knocking, we even had ECL football to offer him. Torres had gone off the boil a bit and hardly set the Chavs alight and Sterling? Well we all know how that's going.

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I can see couthino been sold next, and if he keeps playing and improving the way he is, Can after that. I know we havent won a whole lot in last few years but the lack of champions league football worries me the most. The fact chelsea city Utd are going to massively improve their team with top quality players means more than likely there will be 1 spot up for champions league football, i think we can agree on those 3 teams will more than likely make up the top 3. Arsenal have a habit of finishing 4th and always seem to secure it at the right times. Spurs will improve also and if they played anything like they did after last christmas it will even be harder for us.

This is gonna be a huge challenge for us, if we dont get top 4 i cannot see couthino/sturridge/ and to some extent can, waiting around for another season with no champions league

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Originally Posted By Ambitious1
I can see couthino been sold next, and if he keeps playing and improving the way he is, Can after that. I know we havent won a whole lot in last few years but the lack of champions league football worries me the most. The fact chelsea city Utd are going to massively improve their team with top quality players means more than likely there will be 1 spot up for champions league football, i think we can agree on those 3 teams will more than likely make up the top 3. Arsenal have a habit of finishing 4th and always seem to secure it at the right times. Spurs will improve also and if they played anything like they did after last christmas it will even be harder for us.

This is gonna be a huge challenge for us, if we dont get top 4 i cannot see couthino/sturridge/ and to some extent can, waiting around for another season with no champions league


I think we are the team which has reinforced the most so far and probably spent the most as well. We have recruited a goalkeeper, CB, DM, striker/AM.

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